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fw at deneb

Jul 16, 2009, 10:18 AM

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--- Comment #1 from Florian Weimer <fw [at] deneb> 2009-07-16 18:18:21 ---
* Ted Cooper:

> DNS lookups inside Exim need to be validated via DNSSEC where available.

The UNIX model is to run a local validating resolver and put
"nameserver 127.0.0.1" into /etc/resolv.conf. Why would you want to
do anything else?


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arekm at maven

Jul 16, 2009, 10:39 AM

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--- Comment #2 from Arkadiusz Miskiewicz <arekm [at] maven> 2009-07-16 18:39:02 ---
Why local and not in LAN? If in LAN then it still needs to make sure that
queries to LAN resolver are secure.

I see no point in having local caching ns on every server/pc client computer
etc if I can have one + backup on LAN.


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eximX0902w at linuxwan

Jul 16, 2009, 4:58 PM

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--- Comment #3 from Ted Cooper <eximX0902w [at] linuxwan> 2009-07-17 00:58:54 ---
We kinda went into this on the exim-users list, but I really should have put my
thinking in here too.

The UNIX model of using the local caching resolver, while valid and giving
essentially the exact same final outcome, does get the additional information
associated with validated lookups. This method only gives the result as a valid
set of RRs, NXDOMAIN, or SERVFAIL. There is no way to tell between verification
failing and a true SERVFAIL. The Exim model is to give as much information to
the ACLs and conditions as possible to allow people to do whatever magic foo
they wish.

You should be able to trust your LAN resolver.

After having the issue brought up on the mailing list and checking out some of
the sites regarding it, I found that Postfix and Sendmail had patches
available, and I didn't want Exim to be left out in the cold ;) After some more
looking today, it seems that these patches are supplied by a commercial entity
paid by the US govt (DHS)[1][2] to help push DNSSEC adoption along. I have been
unable to find anything related to the patches on the either of the other MTA
official websites.

So, the question becomes - Is this a worthwhile addition to Exim? ie Should
Exim have the ability to do its own DNSSEC validation dependent on user flags
and set some variables which can be used in expansions to make decisions. At
this point, it would be an EXPERIMENTAL addition with no backwards incompatible
configuration changes.



[1] http://www.dnssec-deployment.org/
[2] http://www.dnssec-tools.org/


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graeme at graemef

Jul 17, 2009, 12:19 AM

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--- Comment #4 from Graeme Fowler <graeme [at] graemef> 2009-07-17 08:19:22 ---
On Fri, 2009-07-17 at 00:58 +0100, Ted Cooper wrote:
> So, the question becomes - Is this a worthwhile addition to Exim? ie Should
> Exim have the ability to do its own DNSSEC validation dependent on user flags
> and set some variables which can be used in expansions to make decisions.

Short answer: yes.

Longer answer: yes, but finding someone with both Exim and DNSSEC
experience to code this up may be... challenging.

Graeme


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nigel at exim

Jul 17, 2009, 1:07 AM

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--- Comment #5 from Nigel Metheringham <nigel [at] exim> 2009-07-17 09:07:53 ---
Will consider patches that do this, but intend to not attempt any work or ask
others to attempt work on this.

Personally think that we should not accept this functionality as its just
bloat and repeating functionality from another subsystem into an already
overweight system. We are not designing a complete operating system.

Priority dropped.


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jwblist3 at olympus

Jul 17, 2009, 12:56 PM

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(John returns from the wilderness.)

It seems somewhat attractive, especially as experimental for a while. Having
said that, I don't have the skills to do it. And there is likely more
important stuff for people with the skills to do.

--John



On 7/16/09 4:58 PM, "Ted Cooper" <eximX0902w [at] linuxwan> wrote:

> So, the question becomes - Is this a worthwhile addition to Exim? ie Should
> Exim have the ability to do its own DNSSEC validation dependent on user flags
> and set some variables which can be used in expansions to make decisions. At
> this point, it would be an EXPERIMENTAL addition with no backwards
> incompatible
> configuration changes.



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