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sharpe at ns

Nov 30, 2000, 2:52 AM

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FYI: Compliments ... Re: Ethereal etc

>Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 21:23:46 +1100 (EST)
>From: Stanley Hopcroft <Stanley.Hopcroft [at] IPAustralia>
>Subject: Re: Ethereal etc
>X-Sender: anwsmh [at] stan
>To: Richard Sharpe <sharpe [at] ns>
>X-Envelope-to: ns
>X-Authentication-warning: stan.aipo.gov.au: anwsmh owned process doing -bs
>Original-recipient: rfc822;sharpe [at] ns
>
>Dear Sir,
>
>I am writing to thank you and your colleagues for providing the world
>such a wonderful product as Ethereal.
>
>Simply put the ethereal product is wonderful.
>
>It is as good as or better than
>
>1 tcpdump
>2 Pro-Tools 2.x (an OS/2 product with a particuarly nice means of
>specifying filters, replay and capture disposition)
>3 HP Internet Advisor v 0.0.7 ( I think. The decode quality and
>quatity of the protocols is particuarly poor. We wanted the
>timestamping capability (ns) though that's been far less useful than I
>hoped ).
>
>I have very little understanding of networks or protocols but what I
>have has usually been painstakingly gathered by seeing how things
>happen on the wire.
>
>The success of the wonderful WR Stevens books (TCP Illustrated
>..) indicates that others also find protocols more easily understood
>by looking at packet traces.
>
>Thank you very much,
>
>Yours sincerely
>
>S Hopcroft
>
>
>

Regards
-------
Richard Sharpe, sharpe [at] ns
Samba (Team member, www.samba.org), Ethereal (Team member, www.zing.org)
Contributing author, SAMS Teach Yourself Samba in 24 Hours
Author, Special Edition, Using Samba

deicher at sandia

Nov 30, 2000, 6:43 AM

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RE: FYI: Compliments ... Re: Ethereal etc [In reply to]

Yeah

There was a little discussion on the FreeBSD ISP mailing list last night and
ethereal was brought. One of things out of it is they are going to make a
sub-port of ethereal that only builds tethereal for the non X people.

diana

PS Thanks Richard for the work you've done here and on Samba, I just had a
reason to use mod_auth_smb yesterday. The owner of that modules gives you
credit for influencing his work.

-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Sharpe
To: ethereal-dev [at] ethereal
Sent: 11/30/00 2:52 AM
Subject: [Ethereal-dev] FYI: Compliments ... Re: Ethereal etc

>Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 21:23:46 +1100 (EST)
>From: Stanley Hopcroft <Stanley.Hopcroft [at] IPAustralia>
>Subject: Re: Ethereal etc
>To: Richard Sharpe <sharpe [at] ns>
>
>Dear Sir,
>
>I am writing to thank you and your colleagues for providing the world
>such a wonderful product as Ethereal.
>
>Simply put the ethereal product is wonderful.
>
>It is as good as or better than
>
>1 tcpdump
>2 Pro-Tools 2.x (an OS/2 product with a particuarly nice means of
>specifying filters, replay and capture disposition)
>3 HP Internet Advisor v 0.0.7 ( I think. The decode quality and
>quatity of the protocols is particuarly poor. We wanted the
>timestamping capability (ns) though that's been far less useful than I
>hoped ).

SNIP

>
>Yours sincerely
>
>S Hopcroft
>

Regards
-------
Richard Sharpe, sharpe [at] ns
Samba (Team member, www.samba.org), Ethereal (Team member, www.zing.org)

jfoste at woodward

Nov 30, 2000, 7:51 AM

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RE: FYI: Compliments ... Re: Ethereal etc [In reply to]

per Dian Eichert -

> There was a little discussion on the FreeBSD ISP mailing list last night
and
> ethereal was brought. One of things out of it is they are going to make a
> sub-port of ethereal that only builds tethereal for the non X people.

Gilbert and Guy have already address this issue. Here is the text from the
email by Gilbert -

> > I saw a posting in August 2000 regarding compiling tethereal without
needing
> > GTK and other packages that are needed for the graphical backend of
ethereal.
> > I did not find any solution to that posting, and I am wondering if
anyone has
> > since succeeded in doing so...that is, compiling and building only
tethereal
> > without having to install GTK.
>
> I just now checked into CVS changes that will allow you to build
> tethereal and editcap without needing GTK+ installed. Thanks to Guy for
> doing to code cleanup for me; I only had to deal with autoconf/automake.
>
> The new configure script can detect if you don't have GTK+, and if you
don't,
> it won't build ethereal. You can enable/disable any of the 3 targets,
> ethereal, tethereal, and editcap, with --enable-XXX and --disable-XXX
flags
> (where XXX is the target).
>
> --gilbert

Please notify the people in the FreeBSD ISP mailing list so they don't
duplicate
the work that has already been done.

I have started some work on a curses based variant, however it is still
preliminary (doesn't compile yet) and will not be ready for some time.
I haven't posted anything to the CVS tree and don't plan to until I can
at least build it.

Jeff Foster.
jfoste [at] woodward

gram at xiexie

Nov 30, 2000, 8:03 AM

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Re: FYI: Compliments ... Re: Ethereal etc [In reply to]

On Thu, 30 Nov 2000 06:43:53 -0700
"Eichert, Diana" <deicher [at] sandia> wrote:

> Yeah
>
> There was a little discussion on the FreeBSD ISP mailing list last night and
> ethereal was brought. One of things out of it is they are going to make a
> sub-port of ethereal that only builds tethereal for the non X people.
>
> diana
>

The current CVS image of Ethereal can build only tethereal (and editcap) if
the GTK+ libraries are not installed. This will probably work also for the
case of people w/o X installed, although I have not tried that. Perhaps
you could suggest to them to try the current CVS image.

--gilbert

deicher at sandia

Nov 30, 2000, 9:30 AM

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RE: FYI: Compliments ... Re: Ethereal etc [In reply to]

Hi all

I think their plan is to use the ideas from -current. I was the one that
brought up the ability to build tethereal/editcap without having to build
Ethereal. This was after someone indicated that Ethereal was all well and
good but it wouldn't work in their non-X environment.

I'll forward both e-mails I've recv'd to Bill Fumerola <sp>, he was the
person who indicated the sub-port.

diana

-----Original Message-----
From: Gilbert Ramirez
To: Eichert, Diana
Cc: sharpe [at] ns; ethereal-dev [at] ethereal
Sent: 11/30/00 8:03 AM
Subject: Re: [Ethereal-dev] FYI: Compliments ... Re: Ethereal etc

On Thu, 30 Nov 2000 06:43:53 -0700
"Eichert, Diana" <deicher [at] sandia> wrote:

> Yeah
>
> There was a little discussion on the FreeBSD ISP mailing list last
night and
> ethereal was brought. One of things out of it is they are going to
make a
> sub-port of ethereal that only builds tethereal for the non X people.
>
> diana
>

The current CVS image of Ethereal can build only tethereal (and editcap)
if
the GTK+ libraries are not installed. This will probably work also for
the
case of people w/o X installed, although I have not tried that. Perhaps
you could suggest to them to try the current CVS image.

--gilbert

deicher at sandia

Nov 30, 2000, 10:02 AM

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RE: FYI: Compliments ... Re: Ethereal etc [In reply to]

Bill

In case you're not on the Ethereal dev mailing list I was asked to forward
this to you, in regards to your e-mail to the list about "I'm going to add a
slave port of tethereal to the ethereal port so we can build a non-X
version."

diana

-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Foster
To: 'Eichert, Diana'; 'ethereal-dev [at] ethereal '
Sent: 11/30/00 7:51 AM
Subject: RE: [Ethereal-dev] FYI: Compliments ... Re: Ethereal etc

Gilbert and Guy have already address this issue. Here is the text from
the email by Gilbert -

> > I saw a posting in August 2000 regarding compiling tethereal
> > without needing GTK and other packages that are needed for the
> > graphical backend of ethereal. I did not find any solution to that
> > posting, and I am wondering if anyone has since succeeded in doing
> > so...that is, compiling and building only tethereal without having to
> > install GTK.
>
> I just now checked into CVS changes that will allow you to build
> tethereal and editcap without needing GTK+ installed. Thanks to Guy
> for doing to code cleanup for me; I only had to deal with
> autoconf/automake.
>
> The new configure script can detect if you don't have GTK+, and if you
> don't, it won't build ethereal. You can enable/disable any of the 3
> targets, ethereal, tethereal, and editcap, with --enable-XXX and
> --disable-XXX flags (where XXX is the target).
>
> --gilbert

Please notify the people in the FreeBSD ISP mailing list so they don't
duplicate the work that has already been done.

I have started some work on a curses based variant, however it is still
preliminary (doesn't compile yet) and will not be ready for some time.
I haven't posted anything to the CVS tree and don't plan to until I can
at least build it.

Jeff Foster.
jfoste [at] woodward

billf at mu

Nov 30, 2000, 2:48 PM

Post #7 of 7 (235 views)
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Re: FYI: Compliments ... Re: Ethereal etc [In reply to]

On Thu, Nov 30, 2000 at 09:03:30AM -0600, Gilbert Ramirez wrote:

> The current CVS image of Ethereal can build only tethereal (and editcap) if
> the GTK+ libraries are not installed. This will probably work also for the
> case of people w/o X installed, although I have not tried that. Perhaps
> you could suggest to them to try the current CVS image.

Thanks to diane for forwading me these mails, I'm on ethereal-dev, but
I'm moving so I probably wouldn't have paid much attention. :->

The ports system works in such a way that if gtk wasn't installed on their
machine, before ethereal would build it would install it (and the X libraries)
first.

Thanks for making it much easier to hook in support for tethereal only (its
easier for me to test both now without having to have a clean room machine.)

--
Bill Fumerola - security yahoo[1] / Yahoo! inc.
- fumerola [at] yahoo-inc / billf [at] FreeBSD

1. and FreeBSD ethereal maintainer.

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