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notafishz at gmail

Apr 22, 2012, 6:12 PM

Post #26 of 32 (95 views)
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Re: Scholarship and early registration [In reply to]

On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 2:35 AM, Nathan <nawrich [at] gmail> wrote:
>
>
> 2012/4/22 Delphine Ménard <notafishz [at] gmail>
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 5:32 PM, James Hare <messedrocker [at] gmail>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > The deals we're arranging have no extra charge for dual occupancy.
>>
>> This might sound extremely stupid, but make sure that dual occupancy
>> means 2 beds in a room, not a Queen Size Bed. There are surprisingly
>> few hotels that actually offer two separate beds in a room or their
>> contingent of such rooms is actually quite limited. At the prices that
>> were mentionned, you really want to book all the double bed rooms in
>> those hotels, because very few people will be able to afford a single
>> room.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Delphine
>> --
>
>
> I'm not sure about this... While I haven't done a survey or discovered any
> references on point, I've stayed in a number of hotels in Washington and
> throughout the U.S. and almost always encounter two beds in a room as a
> single occupant. Since I'm commenting anyway, I will say that $149 is a very
> good rate for hotels in Washington D.C.

Point taken on the beds. It must be a silly European habit ;).
I am not arguing with the fact that $150 is cheap or expensive for
Washington. My point was rather to say that $150/night is not
something that many wikip/medians can afford.

> And while Thomas Dalton denigrates it as "a silly American habit" to quote
> prices before taxes, that may be because we have so many different tax
> domains with different rates. It helps to know the pre-tax amounts (similar
> to how airline seats are often quoted) for comparison purposes, as the tax
> component will give you no sense of the accommodations or amenities expected
> etc. I suppose that may not be commonly understood by travelers from small
> nations with primarily national tax policies.

Heh, I like the "small nations" part a lot ;). You're right though, at
least in Europe, you know the tax, but it's included in the display
price. Shopping in the US can quickly become a problem if you max out
your available dollar by just adding up numbers without "thinking" the
tax.


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josephseddon at gmail

Apr 22, 2012, 6:29 PM

Post #27 of 32 (99 views)
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Re: Scholarship and early registration [In reply to]

Primarily "sensible" tax policies :) It is a very annoying practice though.
And pointless because rarely is there any indication of what the actual tax
is until youve bought something. So you neither know how much your going to
pay or have any idea to what to expect from the state.

Seddon

2012/4/23 Delphine Ménard <notafishz [at] gmail>

> On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 2:35 AM, Nathan <nawrich [at] gmail> wrote:
> >
> >
> > 2012/4/22 Delphine Ménard <notafishz [at] gmail>
> >>
> >> On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 5:32 PM, James Hare <messedrocker [at] gmail>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > The deals we're arranging have no extra charge for dual occupancy.
> >>
> >> This might sound extremely stupid, but make sure that dual occupancy
> >> means 2 beds in a room, not a Queen Size Bed. There are surprisingly
> >> few hotels that actually offer two separate beds in a room or their
> >> contingent of such rooms is actually quite limited. At the prices that
> >> were mentionned, you really want to book all the double bed rooms in
> >> those hotels, because very few people will be able to afford a single
> >> room.
> >>
> >> Best,
> >>
> >> Delphine
> >> --
> >
> >
> > I'm not sure about this... While I haven't done a survey or discovered
> any
> > references on point, I've stayed in a number of hotels in Washington and
> > throughout the U.S. and almost always encounter two beds in a room as a
> > single occupant. Since I'm commenting anyway, I will say that $149 is a
> very
> > good rate for hotels in Washington D.C.
>
> Point taken on the beds. It must be a silly European habit ;).
> I am not arguing with the fact that $150 is cheap or expensive for
> Washington. My point was rather to say that $150/night is not
> something that many wikip/medians can afford.
>
> > And while Thomas Dalton denigrates it as "a silly American habit" to
> quote
> > prices before taxes, that may be because we have so many different tax
> > domains with different rates. It helps to know the pre-tax amounts
> (similar
> > to how airline seats are often quoted) for comparison purposes, as the
> tax
> > component will give you no sense of the accommodations or amenities
> expected
> > etc. I suppose that may not be commonly understood by travelers from
> small
> > nations with primarily national tax policies.
>
> Heh, I like the "small nations" part a lot ;). You're right though, at
> least in Europe, you know the tax, but it's included in the display
> price. Shopping in the US can quickly become a problem if you max out
> your available dollar by just adding up numbers without "thinking" the
> tax.
>
>
> Delphine
> --
> @notafish
>
> NB. This gmail address is used for mailing lists. Personal emails will get
> lost.
> Intercultural musings: Ceci n'est pas une endive -
> http://blog.notanendive.org
> Photos with simple eyes: notaphoto - http://photo.notafish.org
>
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messedrocker at gmail

Apr 22, 2012, 6:51 PM

Post #28 of 32 (93 views)
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Re: Scholarship and early registration [In reply to]

I and every American will concede the U.S. tax code does not make
sense. (Technically this is the D.C. tax code we're dealing with, but
just another part of the problem.) But now that we have that settled,
let me know if you want me to clarify a price.

Regards,
James Hare

On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 9:29 PM, Joseph Seddon <josephseddon [at] gmail> wrote:
> Primarily "sensible" tax policies :) It is a very annoying practice though.
> And pointless because rarely is there any indication of what the actual tax
> is until youve bought something. So you neither know how much your going to
> pay or have any idea to what to expect from the state.
>
> Seddon
>
>
> 2012/4/23 Delphine Ménard <notafishz [at] gmail>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 2:35 AM, Nathan <nawrich [at] gmail> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > 2012/4/22 Delphine Ménard <notafishz [at] gmail>
>> >>
>> >> On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 5:32 PM, James Hare <messedrocker [at] gmail>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > The deals we're arranging have no extra charge for dual occupancy.
>> >>
>> >> This might sound extremely stupid, but make sure that dual occupancy
>> >> means 2 beds in a room, not a Queen Size Bed. There are surprisingly
>> >> few hotels that actually offer two separate beds in a room or their
>> >> contingent of such rooms is actually quite limited. At the prices that
>> >> were mentionned, you really want to book all the double bed rooms in
>> >> those hotels, because very few people will be able to afford a single
>> >> room.
>> >>
>> >> Best,
>> >>
>> >> Delphine
>> >> --
>> >
>> >
>> > I'm not sure about this... While I haven't done a survey or discovered
>> > any
>> > references on point, I've stayed in a number of hotels in Washington and
>> > throughout the U.S. and almost always encounter two beds in a room as a
>> > single occupant. Since I'm commenting anyway, I will say that $149 is a
>> > very
>> > good rate for hotels in Washington D.C.
>>
>> Point taken on the beds. It must be a silly European habit ;).
>> I am not arguing with the fact that $150 is cheap or expensive for
>> Washington. My point was rather to say that $150/night is not
>> something that many wikip/medians can afford.
>>
>> > And while Thomas Dalton denigrates it as "a silly American habit" to
>> > quote
>> > prices before taxes, that may be because we have so many different tax
>> > domains with different rates. It helps to know the pre-tax amounts
>> > (similar
>> > to how airline seats are often quoted) for comparison purposes, as the
>> > tax
>> > component will give you no sense of the accommodations or amenities
>> > expected
>> > etc. I suppose that may not be commonly understood by travelers from
>> > small
>> > nations with primarily national tax policies.
>>
>> Heh, I like the "small nations" part a lot ;). You're right though, at
>> least in Europe, you know the tax, but it's included in the display
>> price. Shopping in the US can quickly become a problem if you max out
>> your available dollar by just adding up numbers without "thinking" the
>> tax.
>>
>>
>> Delphine
>> --
>> @notafish
>>
>> NB. This gmail address is used for mailing lists. Personal emails will get
>> lost.
>> Intercultural musings: Ceci n'est pas une endive -
>> http://blog.notanendive.org
>> Photos with simple eyes: notaphoto - http://photo.notafish.org
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l
>
>
>
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lodewijk at effeietsanders

Apr 23, 2012, 12:39 AM

Post #29 of 32 (97 views)
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Re: Scholarship and early registration [In reply to]

At least there will be plenty of dorms available if I'm reading the
bid<http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2012/Bids/Washington,_D.C.#Accommodations>,
for 24$ a bed with double occupancy. These were at least confirmed already
*in the bid* so I guess we can have those up soon, a year later :) Because
yeah, this amount per night is what I would ideally spend on a whole
Wikimania for staying etc.

Best,
Lodewijk

El 23 de abril de 2012 03:51, James Hare <messedrocker [at] gmail> escribió:

> I and every American will concede the U.S. tax code does not make
> sense. (Technically this is the D.C. tax code we're dealing with, but
> just another part of the problem.) But now that we have that settled,
> let me know if you want me to clarify a price.
>
> Regards,
> James Hare
>
> On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 9:29 PM, Joseph Seddon <josephseddon [at] gmail>
> wrote:
> > Primarily "sensible" tax policies :) It is a very annoying practice
> though.
> > And pointless because rarely is there any indication of what the actual
> tax
> > is until youve bought something. So you neither know how much your going
> to
> > pay or have any idea to what to expect from the state.
> >
> > Seddon
> >
> >
> > 2012/4/23 Delphine Ménard <notafishz [at] gmail>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 2:35 AM, Nathan <nawrich [at] gmail> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > 2012/4/22 Delphine Ménard <notafishz [at] gmail>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 5:32 PM, James Hare <messedrocker [at] gmail>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > The deals we're arranging have no extra charge for dual occupancy.
> >> >>
> >> >> This might sound extremely stupid, but make sure that dual occupancy
> >> >> means 2 beds in a room, not a Queen Size Bed. There are surprisingly
> >> >> few hotels that actually offer two separate beds in a room or their
> >> >> contingent of such rooms is actually quite limited. At the prices
> that
> >> >> were mentionned, you really want to book all the double bed rooms in
> >> >> those hotels, because very few people will be able to afford a single
> >> >> room.
> >> >>
> >> >> Best,
> >> >>
> >> >> Delphine
> >> >> --
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > I'm not sure about this... While I haven't done a survey or discovered
> >> > any
> >> > references on point, I've stayed in a number of hotels in Washington
> and
> >> > throughout the U.S. and almost always encounter two beds in a room as
> a
> >> > single occupant. Since I'm commenting anyway, I will say that $149 is
> a
> >> > very
> >> > good rate for hotels in Washington D.C.
> >>
> >> Point taken on the beds. It must be a silly European habit ;).
> >> I am not arguing with the fact that $150 is cheap or expensive for
> >> Washington. My point was rather to say that $150/night is not
> >> something that many wikip/medians can afford.
> >>
> >> > And while Thomas Dalton denigrates it as "a silly American habit" to
> >> > quote
> >> > prices before taxes, that may be because we have so many different tax
> >> > domains with different rates. It helps to know the pre-tax amounts
> >> > (similar
> >> > to how airline seats are often quoted) for comparison purposes, as the
> >> > tax
> >> > component will give you no sense of the accommodations or amenities
> >> > expected
> >> > etc. I suppose that may not be commonly understood by travelers from
> >> > small
> >> > nations with primarily national tax policies.
> >>
> >> Heh, I like the "small nations" part a lot ;). You're right though, at
> >> least in Europe, you know the tax, but it's included in the display
> >> price. Shopping in the US can quickly become a problem if you max out
> >> your available dollar by just adding up numbers without "thinking" the
> >> tax.
> >>
> >>
> >> Delphine
> >> --
> >> @notafish
> >>
> >> NB. This gmail address is used for mailing lists. Personal emails will
> get
> >> lost.
> >> Intercultural musings: Ceci n'est pas une endive -
> >> http://blog.notanendive.org
> >> Photos with simple eyes: notaphoto - http://photo.notafish.org
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Wikimania-l mailing list
> >> Wikimania-l [at] lists
> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l
> >
> >
> >
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> >
>
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lodewijk at effeietsanders

Apr 23, 2012, 12:46 AM

Post #30 of 32 (97 views)
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Re: Scholarship and early registration [In reply to]

Hi James,

I would like to strongly suggest to communicate this to all people that
registered. If 150 USD is going to be the cheapest you can provide (and for
most people it is just way out of their range) it is only fair to tell them
that now - because every day they will wait for you to come up with those
great cheap hotel rates that were promised (but as we understand now, that
is only for DC standards) the cheaper hotels get more expensive. There's
probably not much more you can do at this point on cheap hotels, but
letting them know well in time is only fair. Not everyone is on this
mailing list (by far).

Lodewijk

El 22 de abril de 2012 16:39, James Hare <messedrocker [at] gmail> escribió:

> It does seem like we're being mute about things, and I do regret that.
> But as a personal rule I don't like announcing things before they're
> done. You have a right to complete information and that is what you
> will get—once it is available.
>
> Here is a sneak peak. We have the "official hotel" which will run
> $189/night. It is a brief walk from the venue (or you could take a $6
> taxi if you insist). It gets you some of the best free hotel wireless
> in DC as well as continental breakfast. We will also be making a deal
> with a $149/night hotel that is VERY close to the venue, but you have
> to purchase breakfast. We also got a couple of hotels thrown in at
> $149/night with free breakfast and wireless, but they are farther from
> the venue (but we can easily arrange for group transportation). These
> prices are before DC's ludicrous hotel tax. I'd also like to make some
> beds in the hostel available for general consumption, but between all
> the people receiving scholarships, I am not sure that can happen.
>
> If I had my druthers, we'd have cheaper hotel rates. However, the
> $189/night hotel is already at a steep discount (it normally sells for
> $240 in the summer) and the $149 rate is the best you will get in
> Washington, DC during the summer. It is worth noting that as a
> conference we are prioritizing hotels that are close to the venue
> (except for the two which are farther away, but those were too good an
> offer to pass up—they're NICE hotels). You are all free men and women
> and are welcome to book somewhere cheaply if you can find somewhere
> cheap, since we figured that those looking to save money are going to
> go to Priceline no matter what.
>
> I shouldn't be saying this, but you may be able to get a good rate on
> hotels if you book in Arlington; specifically, near the Rosslyn, Court
> House, or Clarendon metro stations. Those are all on the same line as
> the venue (located by the Foggy Bottom–GWU station), but are urbanized
> enough areas that you don't need a car. Additionally, since they are
> outside the city and in Virginia, the hotel tax is significantly
> cheaper. If you're of limited means, consider booking in Arlington. If
> you can afford the extra cost and would like to stay close to the
> venue, adjacent to our special events and to great neighborhoods in
> general, and in close proximity to other Wikipedians, please consider
> the hotels we'll be promoting on our website soon.
>


meta.sj at gmail

Apr 23, 2012, 9:43 PM

Post #31 of 32 (92 views)
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Re: Scholarship and early registration [In reply to]

It seems it might be worth getting someone new to help manage *nothing
but* the public communication about lodging -- from confirming details
to updating wiki pages to answering questions on mailnig lists --
including dorm and hostel options and the variety of hotel options.
That may help avoid extra confusion.

S.


On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 3:39 AM, Lodewijk <lodewijk [at] effeietsanders> wrote:
> At least there will be plenty of dorms available if I'm reading the bid, for
> 24$ a bed with double occupancy. These were at least confirmed already *in
> the bid* so I guess we can have those up soon, a year later :) Because yeah,
> this amount per night is what I would ideally spend on a whole Wikimania for
> staying etc.
>
> Best,
> Lodewijk
>
> El 23 de abril de 2012 03:51, James Hare <messedrocker [at] gmail> escribió:
>
>> I and every American will concede the U.S. tax code does not make
>> sense. (Technically this is the D.C. tax code we're dealing with, but
>> just another part of the problem.) But now that we have that settled,
>> let me know if you want me to clarify a price.
>>
>> Regards,
>> James Hare
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 9:29 PM, Joseph Seddon <josephseddon [at] gmail>
>> wrote:
>> > Primarily "sensible" tax policies :) It is a very annoying practice
>> > though.
>> > And pointless because rarely is there any indication of what the actual
>> > tax
>> > is until youve bought something. So you neither know how much your going
>> > to
>> > pay or have any idea to what to expect from the state.
>> >
>> > Seddon
>> >
>> >
>> > 2012/4/23 Delphine Ménard <notafishz [at] gmail>
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 2:35 AM, Nathan <nawrich [at] gmail> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > 2012/4/22 Delphine Ménard <notafishz [at] gmail>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 5:32 PM, James Hare <messedrocker [at] gmail>
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > The deals we're arranging have no extra charge for dual occupancy.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> This might sound extremely stupid, but make sure that dual occupancy
>> >> >> means 2 beds in a room, not a Queen Size Bed. There are surprisingly
>> >> >> few hotels that actually offer two separate beds in a room or their
>> >> >> contingent of such rooms is actually quite limited. At the prices
>> >> >> that
>> >> >> were mentionned, you really want to book all the double bed rooms in
>> >> >> those hotels, because very few people will be able to afford a
>> >> >> single
>> >> >> room.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Best,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Delphine
>> >> >> --
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > I'm not sure about this... While I haven't done a survey or
>> >> > discovered
>> >> > any
>> >> > references on point, I've stayed in a number of hotels in Washington
>> >> > and
>> >> > throughout the U.S. and almost always encounter two beds in a room as
>> >> > a
>> >> > single occupant. Since I'm commenting anyway, I will say that $149 is
>> >> > a
>> >> > very
>> >> > good rate for hotels in Washington D.C.
>> >>
>> >> Point taken on the beds. It must be a silly European habit ;).
>> >> I am not arguing with the fact that $150 is cheap or expensive for
>> >> Washington. My point was rather to say that $150/night is not
>> >> something that many wikip/medians can afford.
>> >>
>> >> > And while Thomas Dalton denigrates it as "a silly American habit" to
>> >> > quote
>> >> > prices before taxes, that may be because we have so many different
>> >> > tax
>> >> > domains with different rates. It helps to know the pre-tax amounts
>> >> > (similar
>> >> > to how airline seats are often quoted) for comparison purposes, as
>> >> > the
>> >> > tax
>> >> > component will give you no sense of the accommodations or amenities
>> >> > expected
>> >> > etc. I suppose that may not be commonly understood by travelers from
>> >> > small
>> >> > nations with primarily national tax policies.
>> >>
>> >> Heh, I like the "small nations" part a lot ;). You're right though, at
>> >> least in Europe, you know the tax, but it's included in the display
>> >> price. Shopping in the US can quickly become a problem if you max out
>> >> your available dollar by just adding up numbers without "thinking" the
>> >> tax.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Delphine
>> >> --
>> >> @notafish
>> >>
>> >> NB. This gmail address is used for mailing lists. Personal emails will
>> >> get
>> >> lost.
>> >> Intercultural musings: Ceci n'est pas une endive -
>> >> http://blog.notanendive.org
>> >> Photos with simple eyes: notaphoto - http://photo.notafish.org
>> >>
>> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> Wikimania-l mailing list
>> >> Wikimania-l [at] lists
>> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l
>> >
>> >
>> >
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>> >
>>
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itzik at infra

Apr 24, 2012, 3:59 AM

Post #32 of 32 (86 views)
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Re: Scholarship and early registration [In reply to]

I don't really familiar with the tax rules in D.C, but foreign tourist are
also need to pay hotel tax? I know that in Israel the foreign participated
on Wikimania didn't have to pay vat for their stay, only the local.

Itzik

On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 7:43 AM, Samuel Klein <meta.sj [at] gmail> wrote:

> It seems it might be worth getting someone new to help manage *nothing
> but* the public communication about lodging -- from confirming details
> to updating wiki pages to answering questions on mailnig lists --
> including dorm and hostel options and the variety of hotel options.
> That may help avoid extra confusion.
>
> S.
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 3:39 AM, Lodewijk <lodewijk [at] effeietsanders>
> wrote:
> > At least there will be plenty of dorms available if I'm reading the bid,
> for
> > 24$ a bed with double occupancy. These were at least confirmed already
> *in
> > the bid* so I guess we can have those up soon, a year later :) Because
> yeah,
> > this amount per night is what I would ideally spend on a whole Wikimania
> for
> > staying etc.
> >
> > Best,
> > Lodewijk
> >
> > El 23 de abril de 2012 03:51, James Hare <messedrocker [at] gmail>
> escribió:
> >
> >> I and every American will concede the U.S. tax code does not make
> >> sense. (Technically this is the D.C. tax code we're dealing with, but
> >> just another part of the problem.) But now that we have that settled,
> >> let me know if you want me to clarify a price.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> James Hare
> >>
> >> On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 9:29 PM, Joseph Seddon <josephseddon [at] gmail>
> >> wrote:
> >> > Primarily "sensible" tax policies :) It is a very annoying practice
> >> > though.
> >> > And pointless because rarely is there any indication of what the
> actual
> >> > tax
> >> > is until youve bought something. So you neither know how much your
> going
> >> > to
> >> > pay or have any idea to what to expect from the state.
> >> >
> >> > Seddon
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > 2012/4/23 Delphine Ménard <notafishz [at] gmail>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 2:35 AM, Nathan <nawrich [at] gmail> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > 2012/4/22 Delphine Ménard <notafishz [at] gmail>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 5:32 PM, James Hare <
> messedrocker [at] gmail>
> >> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > The deals we're arranging have no extra charge for dual
> occupancy.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> This might sound extremely stupid, but make sure that dual
> occupancy
> >> >> >> means 2 beds in a room, not a Queen Size Bed. There are
> surprisingly
> >> >> >> few hotels that actually offer two separate beds in a room or
> their
> >> >> >> contingent of such rooms is actually quite limited. At the prices
> >> >> >> that
> >> >> >> were mentionned, you really want to book all the double bed rooms
> in
> >> >> >> those hotels, because very few people will be able to afford a
> >> >> >> single
> >> >> >> room.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Best,
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Delphine
> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I'm not sure about this... While I haven't done a survey or
> >> >> > discovered
> >> >> > any
> >> >> > references on point, I've stayed in a number of hotels in
> Washington
> >> >> > and
> >> >> > throughout the U.S. and almost always encounter two beds in a room
> as
> >> >> > a
> >> >> > single occupant. Since I'm commenting anyway, I will say that $149
> is
> >> >> > a
> >> >> > very
> >> >> > good rate for hotels in Washington D.C.
> >> >>
> >> >> Point taken on the beds. It must be a silly European habit ;).
> >> >> I am not arguing with the fact that $150 is cheap or expensive for
> >> >> Washington. My point was rather to say that $150/night is not
> >> >> something that many wikip/medians can afford.
> >> >>
> >> >> > And while Thomas Dalton denigrates it as "a silly American habit"
> to
> >> >> > quote
> >> >> > prices before taxes, that may be because we have so many different
> >> >> > tax
> >> >> > domains with different rates. It helps to know the pre-tax amounts
> >> >> > (similar
> >> >> > to how airline seats are often quoted) for comparison purposes, as
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > tax
> >> >> > component will give you no sense of the accommodations or amenities
> >> >> > expected
> >> >> > etc. I suppose that may not be commonly understood by travelers
> from
> >> >> > small
> >> >> > nations with primarily national tax policies.
> >> >>
> >> >> Heh, I like the "small nations" part a lot ;). You're right though,
> at
> >> >> least in Europe, you know the tax, but it's included in the display
> >> >> price. Shopping in the US can quickly become a problem if you max out
> >> >> your available dollar by just adding up numbers without "thinking"
> the
> >> >> tax.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Delphine
> >> >> --
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> >> >>
> >> >> NB. This gmail address is used for mailing lists. Personal emails
> will
> >> >> get
> >> >> lost.
> >> >> Intercultural musings: Ceci n'est pas une endive -
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