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harel.cain at gmail

Jul 19, 2011, 12:39 PM

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Re: Claims by BDS / Palestinian outreach [In reply to]

In fact, it would be really interesting to see just how many people from the
Arab Middle East attended any previous Wikimania. For 2008, please check how
many attendees came from countries that were not Egypt.

I attended Wikimania in 2007 (Taipei) and 2010 (Gdansk) and I recall just a
handful of attendees from Arab countries in each.

I think those numbers will be teaching, and will put this discussion in the
true perspective it deserves.

Harel Cain
Wikimania 2011 local team

On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 22:31, Harel Cain <harel.cain [at] gmail> wrote:

> As to whether this is correct or not, we'll know in a couple of weeks. I
> think it's not 100% correct (read my previous mails, and some things still
> brewing too), and I think it's mainly unfair to us organizers.
>
> You could have drawn the same drawing for previous years and the Middle
> East part would not look much different at all.
>
>
> Harel Cain
> Wikimania 2011 local team
>
> On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 21:22, Kim Bruning <kim [at] bruning> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 07:55:51PM +0200, Kim Bruning wrote:
>> > place_of_residence=
>> > (world AND NOT middle_east)
>> > OR (israel AND NOT (west_bank OR gaza))
>>
>> For people who have trouble deciphering SQL-ish language
>> (
>> small letters = sets
>> AND = Intersection
>> OR = Union
>> AND NOT=Intersection
>> )
>>
>> For people who Just Need A Picture, you can also express this as a
>> venn-like
>> diagram:
>>
>> http://bruning.xs4all.nl/~kim/People_who_are_coming_to_wikimania.svg
>>
>>
>> is this indeed correct?
>>
>> sincerely,
>> Kim Bruning
>>
>>
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kim at bruning

Jul 20, 2011, 7:29 AM

Post #27 of 29 (308 views)
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Re: Claims by BDS / Palestinian outreach [In reply to]

On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 10:39:59PM +0300, Harel Cain wrote:
> I think those numbers will be teaching, and will put this discussion in the
> true perspective it deserves.

Speaking of putting things in perspective, I've been told off-channel
that there have been several previous debates on this topic.

For the record, could someone link me to (some of) these old debates? It's
probably more efficient for me to RTFArchive and come back with any
remaining questions.

sincerely,
Kim Bruning
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harel.cain at gmail

Jul 20, 2011, 8:17 AM

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Re: Claims by BDS / Palestinian outreach [In reply to]

Most of them are in the archive of wikimania-l, some in the archive of
foundation-l, and even fewer in the archive of wikimania-planning-l.
The first two are publicly available. Simple Ctrl-Fing of the threads since
about June 2010 will find most of the stuff if not all of it.

Harel Cain
Wikimania 2011 local team

On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 17:29, Kim Bruning <kim [at] bruning> wrote:

> On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 10:39:59PM +0300, Harel Cain wrote:
> > I think those numbers will be teaching, and will put this discussion in
> the
> > true perspective it deserves.
>
>
> Speaking of putting things in perspective, I've been told off-channel
> that there have been several previous debates on this topic.
>
> For the record, could someone link me to (some of) these old debates? It's
> probably more efficient for me to RTFArchive and come back with any
> remaining questions.
>
> sincerely,
> Kim Bruning
> --
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> gpg (www.gnupg.org) Fingerprint for key FEF9DD72
> 5ED6 E215 73EE AD84 E03A 01C5 94AC 7B0E FEF9 DD72
>
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shipmaster at gmail

Jul 20, 2011, 9:42 AM

Post #29 of 29 (309 views)
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Re: Claims by BDS / Palestinian outreach [In reply to]

Just for the record, in WM08,

there were around 10 people from Bahrain, UAE, Jordan, Syria, Alegria and a
speaker from Lebanon in addition to 3 Israelis... I don't think that was bad
for a usually under-represented region.

On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 8:17 AM, Harel Cain <harel.cain [at] gmail> wrote:

> Most of them are in the archive of wikimania-l, some in the archive of
> foundation-l, and even fewer in the archive of wikimania-planning-l.
> The first two are publicly available. Simple Ctrl-Fing of the threads since
> about June 2010 will find most of the stuff if not all of it.
>
>
>
> Harel Cain
> Wikimania 2011 local team
>
> On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 17:29, Kim Bruning <kim [at] bruning> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 10:39:59PM +0300, Harel Cain wrote:
>> > I think those numbers will be teaching, and will put this discussion in
>> the
>> > true perspective it deserves.
>>
>>
>> Speaking of putting things in perspective, I've been told off-channel
>> that there have been several previous debates on this topic.
>>
>> For the record, could someone link me to (some of) these old debates? It's
>> probably more efficient for me to RTFArchive and come back with any
>> remaining questions.
>>
>> sincerely,
>> Kim Bruning
>> --
>> [Non-pgp mail clients may show pgp-signature as attachment]
>> gpg (www.gnupg.org) Fingerprint for key FEF9DD72
>> 5ED6 E215 73EE AD84 E03A 01C5 94AC 7B0E FEF9 DD72
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Wikimania-l mailing list
>> Wikimania-l [at] lists
>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l
>>
>
>
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