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mysql.jorge at decimal

Jul 31, 2013, 8:50 AM

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Preparing for 3.1x

Hi guys,



Who's on 3.1x (last git stable), which MySQL version do you use?

I'm on MySQL 5.1x and I'm scared to switch to 5.5x or 5.6x..



Opinions?



Jorge,


harald.leithner at itronic

Jul 31, 2013, 8:58 AM

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Re: Preparing for 3.1x [In reply to]

I'm on 3.1.2 using Percona MySQL Server 5.5. and if you can you should
upgrade to MySQL 5.6 or better Percona Server 5.6 (not release, but I
think they release the final today).

And normally upgrade mysql has no downtime, even switching from vanilla to
percona has no impact on the data structure.

I haven't tested MariaDB, but I think its also binary compatible.

Harald


Am 31.07.2013, 17:50 Uhr, schrieb Jorge Bastos <mysql.jorge [at] decimal>:

> Hi guys,
>
>
> Who's on 3.1x (last git stable), which MySQL version do you use?
>
> I'm on MySQL 5.1x and I'm scared to switch to 5.5x or 5.6x..
>
>
> Opinions?
>
>
> Jorge,
>


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mysql.jorge at decimal

Jul 31, 2013, 9:04 AM

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Re: Preparing for 3.1x [In reply to]

> I'm on 3.1.2 using Percona MySQL Server 5.5. and if you can you should
> upgrade to MySQL 5.6 or better Percona Server 5.6 (not release, but I
> think they release the final today).
>
> And normally upgrade mysql has no downtime, even switching from vanilla
> to percona has no impact on the data structure.
>
> I haven't tested MariaDB, but I think its also binary compatible.

I have no problem on the upgrade part, it's more a feedback from the
usability of 5.5 or 5.6

I'm on InnoDB, and I'll remain on it,

In term of speed 5.1 compared to 5.5 or 5.6, are they equal, slower or
faster?

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h.reindl at thelounge

Jul 31, 2013, 9:15 AM

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Re: Preparing for 3.1x [In reply to]

5.5 since at least two years
it is a lot faster and supports compression without the additional plugin


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Betreff: [Dbmail] Preparing for 3.1x

Hi guys,



Who's on 3.1x (last git stable), which MySQL version do you use?

I'm on MySQL 5.1x and I'm scared to switch to 5.5x or 5.6x..



Opinions?



Jorge,



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harald.leithner at itronic

Jul 31, 2013, 9:33 AM

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Re: Preparing for 3.1x [In reply to]

Percona/MariaDB and MySQL vanilla are using the same storage engine InnoDB
with some performance and feature differences.

I don't have a one on one comparison, I only have read some benchmark
where 5.5 got a huge performance boost.
5.6 should be faster but could be slower.

iirc 5.6 (like Percona Server) can change indexes and some alter
operations without downtime.

5.6 can start replication without downtime (not tested)

I have Percona-Server-5.6.12-rc60.4 running since 2013-07-08 with 20 or
more piwik dbs and a daily script deleting and importing about 7GB.

No problems.

My Mailstorage runs Percona Server 5.5.31-rel30.3-520.wheezy since upgrade
to DBmail 3.x, with some defect database files from mysql 5.0^^ recovered
with 5.5.

I'm planing to upgrade to Percona releases 5.6 when it gets stable (both
webhosting and mailhosting).

hope that helps

Harald

Am 31.07.2013, 18:04 Uhr, schrieb Jorge Bastos <mysql.jorge [at] decimal>:

>> I'm on 3.1.2 using Percona MySQL Server 5.5. and if you can you should
>> upgrade to MySQL 5.6 or better Percona Server 5.6 (not release, but I
>> think they release the final today).
>>
>> And normally upgrade mysql has no downtime, even switching from vanilla
>> to percona has no impact on the data structure.
>>
>> I haven't tested MariaDB, but I think its also binary compatible.
>
> I have no problem on the upgrade part, it's more a feedback from the
> usability of 5.5 or 5.6
>
> I'm on InnoDB, and I'll remain on it,
>
> In term of speed 5.1 compared to 5.5 or 5.6, are they equal, slower or
> faster?
>
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mysql.jorge at decimal

Jul 31, 2013, 11:49 AM

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Re: Preparing for 3.1x [In reply to]

Thanks for the answers,

I said i was using 5.1x but i said it wrong, i'm using 5.0, and 3/4 years
ago i didn't upgraded due to the slow problems on 5.1x MySQL version.

So I may do a test in a clone with 5.5x when I upgrade (when 3.1.2 or 3.2 is
out)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: dbmail-bounces [at] dbmail [mailto:dbmail-bounces [at] dbmail] On
> Behalf Of Harald Leithner
> Sent: quarta-feira, 31 de Julho de 2013 17:33
> To: DBMail mailinglist
> Subject: Re: [Dbmail] Preparing for 3.1x
>
> Percona/MariaDB and MySQL vanilla are using the same storage engine
> InnoDB with some performance and feature differences.
>
> I don't have a one on one comparison, I only have read some benchmark
> where 5.5 got a huge performance boost.
> 5.6 should be faster but could be slower.
>
> iirc 5.6 (like Percona Server) can change indexes and some alter
> operations without downtime.
>
> 5.6 can start replication without downtime (not tested)
>
> I have Percona-Server-5.6.12-rc60.4 running since 2013-07-08 with 20 or
> more piwik dbs and a daily script deleting and importing about 7GB.
>
> No problems.
>
> My Mailstorage runs Percona Server 5.5.31-rel30.3-520.wheezy since
> upgrade to DBmail 3.x, with some defect database files from mysql 5.0^^
> recovered with 5.5.
>
> I'm planing to upgrade to Percona releases 5.6 when it gets stable
> (both webhosting and mailhosting).
>
> hope that helps
>
> Harald
>
> Am 31.07.2013, 18:04 Uhr, schrieb Jorge Bastos
> <mysql.jorge [at] decimal>:
>
> >> I'm on 3.1.2 using Percona MySQL Server 5.5. and if you can you
> >> should upgrade to MySQL 5.6 or better Percona Server 5.6 (not
> >> release, but I think they release the final today).
> >>
> >> And normally upgrade mysql has no downtime, even switching from
> >> vanilla to percona has no impact on the data structure.
> >>
> >> I haven't tested MariaDB, but I think its also binary compatible.
> >
> > I have no problem on the upgrade part, it's more a feedback from the
> > usability of 5.5 or 5.6
> >
> > I'm on InnoDB, and I'll remain on it,
> >
> > In term of speed 5.1 compared to 5.5 or 5.6, are they equal, slower
> or
> > faster?
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > DBmail mailing list
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> > http://mailman.fastxs.nl/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dbmail
>
>
> --
> Harald Leithner
>
> ITronic
> Vogelweidplatz 12, 1150 Wien, Austria
> Tel: +43-1-786 23 88
> Fax: +43-1-98 52 077
> Mobil: +43-699-123 78 4 78
> Mail: leithner [at] itronic | itronic.at
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h.reindl at thelounge

Jul 31, 2013, 11:57 AM

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Re: Preparing for 3.1x [In reply to]

5.1 had a lot of performance issues
5.5 was a real gain as far as i remember

below my innodb-settings on 5.5, some of them make a real
difference in performance but honestly to long ago to
remember (caution: some of them does not exist before 5.5)

the dataset is around 10 GB and compressed 8 GB on disk
do *not* change "innodb_log_file_size" before carefully read the docs!

innodb_buffer_pool_size = 5632M
innodb_buffer_pool_instances = 6
innodb_purge_threads = 1
innodb_max_purge_lag = 200000
innodb_max_dirty_pages_pct = 60
innodb_additional_mem_pool_size = 64M
innodb_log_file_size = 512M
innodb_log_buffer_size = 256M
innodb_thread_concurrency = 0
innodb_thread_sleep_delay = 10
innodb_flush_log_at_trx_commit = 2
innodb_support_xa = 1
innodb_lock_wait_timeout = 50
innodb_table_locks = 0
innodb_checksums = 1
innodb_file_format = barracuda
innodb_file_per_table = 1
innodb_open_files = 600
innodb_io_capacity = 400
innodb_read_io_threads = 4
innodb_write_io_threads = 4
innodb_doublewrite = 1
transaction-isolation = READ-COMMITTED

Am 31.07.2013 20:49, schrieb Jorge Bastos:
> Thanks for the answers,
>
> I said i was using 5.1x but i said it wrong, i'm using 5.0, and 3/4 years
> ago i didn't upgraded due to the slow problems on 5.1x MySQL version.
>
> So I may do a test in a clone with 5.5x when I upgrade (when 3.1.2 or 3.2 is
> out)
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: dbmail-bounces [at] dbmail [mailto:dbmail-bounces [at] dbmail] On
>> Behalf Of Harald Leithner
>> Sent: quarta-feira, 31 de Julho de 2013 17:33
>> To: DBMail mailinglist
>> Subject: Re: [Dbmail] Preparing for 3.1x
>>
>> Percona/MariaDB and MySQL vanilla are using the same storage engine
>> InnoDB with some performance and feature differences.
>>
>> I don't have a one on one comparison, I only have read some benchmark
>> where 5.5 got a huge performance boost.
>> 5.6 should be faster but could be slower.
>>
>> iirc 5.6 (like Percona Server) can change indexes and some alter
>> operations without downtime.
>>
>> 5.6 can start replication without downtime (not tested)
>>
>> I have Percona-Server-5.6.12-rc60.4 running since 2013-07-08 with 20 or
>> more piwik dbs and a daily script deleting and importing about 7GB.
>>
>> No problems.
>>
>> My Mailstorage runs Percona Server 5.5.31-rel30.3-520.wheezy since
>> upgrade to DBmail 3.x, with some defect database files from mysql 5.0^^
>> recovered with 5.5.
>>
>> I'm planing to upgrade to Percona releases 5.6 when it gets stable
>> (both webhosting and mailhosting).
>>
>> hope that helps
>>
>> Harald
>>
>> Am 31.07.2013, 18:04 Uhr, schrieb Jorge Bastos
>> <mysql.jorge [at] decimal>:
>>
>>>> I'm on 3.1.2 using Percona MySQL Server 5.5. and if you can you
>>>> should upgrade to MySQL 5.6 or better Percona Server 5.6 (not
>>>> release, but I think they release the final today).
>>>>
>>>> And normally upgrade mysql has no downtime, even switching from
>>>> vanilla to percona has no impact on the data structure.
>>>>
>>>> I haven't tested MariaDB, but I think its also binary compatible.
>>>
>>> I have no problem on the upgrade part, it's more a feedback from the
>>> usability of 5.5 or 5.6
>>>
>>> I'm on InnoDB, and I'll remain on it,
>>>
>>> In term of speed 5.1 compared to 5.5 or 5.6, are they equal, slower
>> or
>>> faster?
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mysql.jorge at decimal

Jul 31, 2013, 12:07 PM

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Re: Preparing for 3.1x [In reply to]

Well,

For your storage usage anything would be fine I guess, I have on this moment
185GB :)

But your feedback is helpful, that what I had in mind, NEVER USE 5.1x

> -----Original Message-----
> From: dbmail-bounces [at] dbmail [mailto:dbmail-bounces [at] dbmail] On
> Behalf Of Reindl Harald
> Sent: quarta-feira, 31 de Julho de 2013 19:58
> To: dbmail [at] dbmail
> Subject: Re: [Dbmail] Preparing for 3.1x
>
> 5.1 had a lot of performance issues
> 5.5 was a real gain as far as i remember
>
> below my innodb-settings on 5.5, some of them make a real difference in
> performance but honestly to long ago to remember (caution: some of them
> does not exist before 5.5)
>
> the dataset is around 10 GB and compressed 8 GB on disk do *not* change
> "innodb_log_file_size" before carefully read the docs!
>
> innodb_buffer_pool_size = 5632M
> innodb_buffer_pool_instances = 6
> innodb_purge_threads = 1
> innodb_max_purge_lag = 200000
> innodb_max_dirty_pages_pct = 60
> innodb_additional_mem_pool_size = 64M
> innodb_log_file_size = 512M
> innodb_log_buffer_size = 256M
> innodb_thread_concurrency = 0
> innodb_thread_sleep_delay = 10
> innodb_flush_log_at_trx_commit = 2
> innodb_support_xa = 1
> innodb_lock_wait_timeout = 50
> innodb_table_locks = 0
> innodb_checksums = 1
> innodb_file_format = barracuda
> innodb_file_per_table = 1
> innodb_open_files = 600
> innodb_io_capacity = 400
> innodb_read_io_threads = 4
> innodb_write_io_threads = 4
> innodb_doublewrite = 1
> transaction-isolation = READ-COMMITTED
>
> Am 31.07.2013 20:49, schrieb Jorge Bastos:
> > Thanks for the answers,
> >
> > I said i was using 5.1x but i said it wrong, i'm using 5.0, and 3/4
> > years ago i didn't upgraded due to the slow problems on 5.1x MySQL
> version.
> >
> > So I may do a test in a clone with 5.5x when I upgrade (when 3.1.2 or
> > 3.2 is
> > out)
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: dbmail-bounces [at] dbmail [mailto:dbmail-bounces [at] dbmail]
> On
> >> Behalf Of Harald Leithner
> >> Sent: quarta-feira, 31 de Julho de 2013 17:33
> >> To: DBMail mailinglist
> >> Subject: Re: [Dbmail] Preparing for 3.1x
> >>
> >> Percona/MariaDB and MySQL vanilla are using the same storage engine
> >> InnoDB with some performance and feature differences.
> >>
> >> I don't have a one on one comparison, I only have read some
> benchmark
> >> where 5.5 got a huge performance boost.
> >> 5.6 should be faster but could be slower.
> >>
> >> iirc 5.6 (like Percona Server) can change indexes and some alter
> >> operations without downtime.
> >>
> >> 5.6 can start replication without downtime (not tested)
> >>
> >> I have Percona-Server-5.6.12-rc60.4 running since 2013-07-08 with 20
> >> or more piwik dbs and a daily script deleting and importing about
> 7GB.
> >>
> >> No problems.
> >>
> >> My Mailstorage runs Percona Server 5.5.31-rel30.3-520.wheezy since
> >> upgrade to DBmail 3.x, with some defect database files from mysql
> >> 5.0^^ recovered with 5.5.
> >>
> >> I'm planing to upgrade to Percona releases 5.6 when it gets stable
> >> (both webhosting and mailhosting).
> >>
> >> hope that helps
> >>
> >> Harald
> >>
> >> Am 31.07.2013, 18:04 Uhr, schrieb Jorge Bastos
> >> <mysql.jorge [at] decimal>:
> >>
> >>>> I'm on 3.1.2 using Percona MySQL Server 5.5. and if you can you
> >>>> should upgrade to MySQL 5.6 or better Percona Server 5.6 (not
> >>>> release, but I think they release the final today).
> >>>>
> >>>> And normally upgrade mysql has no downtime, even switching from
> >>>> vanilla to percona has no impact on the data structure.
> >>>>
> >>>> I haven't tested MariaDB, but I think its also binary compatible.
> >>>
> >>> I have no problem on the upgrade part, it's more a feedback from
> the
> >>> usability of 5.5 or 5.6
> >>>
> >>> I'm on InnoDB, and I'll remain on it,
> >>>
> >>> In term of speed 5.1 compared to 5.5 or 5.6, are they equal, slower
> >> or
> >>> faster?


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h.reindl at thelounge

Jul 31, 2013, 2:17 PM

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Re: Preparing for 3.1x (about MariaDB) [In reply to]

Am 31.07.2013 17:58, schrieb Harald Leithner:
> I'm on 3.1.2 using Percona MySQL Server 5.5. and if you can you should upgrade to MySQL 5.6 or better Percona
> Server 5.6 (not release, but I think they release the final today).
>
> And normally upgrade mysql has no downtime, even switching from vanilla to percona has no impact on the data
> structure.
>
> I haven't tested MariaDB, but I think its also binary compatible

MariaDB is using Percona/XtraDB and from the point of MySQL
currently 5.5 but with a lot from 5.6 backported, currently
most linux distributions switch to MariaDB and at least with
RHEL7 doing the switch also "Oracle MySQL" will start to
become meaningless over the long

i have scheduled the switch to MariaDB in production for 2013/11/01
while my development-machines and personal servers are since some
months migrated to my own source-build for Fedora 18, the upstream
switch was done with Fedora 19, but i am at finish F18-upgrades

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/ReplaceMySQLwithMariaDB
_____________________________________

[harry [at] srv-rhsof:~]$ rpm -qa | grep mariadb
mariadb-5.5.32-4.fc18.20130721.rh.x86_64
mariadb-server-5.5.32-4.fc18.20130721.rh.x86_64
mariadb-libs-5.5.32-4.fc18.20130721.rh.x86_64
mariadb-manpages-5.5.32-4.fc18.20130721.rh.x86_64

Version: '5.5.32-MariaDB' socket: '/var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock' port: 3306 thelounge
130731 23:04:52 InnoDB: Waiting for the background threads to start
130731 23:04:53 Percona XtraDB (http://www.percona.com) 5.5.32-MariaDB-30.2 started; log sequence number 8222757297
_____________________________________

https://kb.askmonty.org/en/mariadb-5532-release-notes/

* Includes XtraDB from Percona Server-5.5.32-rel31.0

* As long as XtraDB is used, MariaDB 5.5.32 is not affected by MySQL
Bug #69623 (multi-file tablespaces do not work after an upgrade)
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