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joan.moreau at m4x

Feb 25, 2009, 1:24 PM

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Resources on the project

Hi Paul,

It seems that you barely have any time on this project. How to move on
and let more people contribute to this project ?

Thanks

JM
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mysql.jorge at decimal

Feb 25, 2009, 1:35 PM

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RE: Resources on the project [In reply to]

Paul always let more people to participate on the project.
Just send a patch and he will include it.

I don't think he's not having time for the project, he may be 50% of his
time on it!




> -----Original Message-----
> From: dbmail-bounces[at]dbmail.org [mailto:dbmail-bounces[at]dbmail.org] On
> Behalf Of Joan Moreau
> Sent: quarta-feira, 25 de Fevereiro de 2009 21:24
> To: DBMail mailinglist
> Subject: [Dbmail] Resources on the project
>
>
> Hi Paul,
>
> It seems that you barely have any time on this project. How to move on
> and let more people contribute to this project ?
>
> Thanks
>
> JM
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jesse at kci

Feb 25, 2009, 1:44 PM

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Re: Resources on the project [In reply to]

Hello Joan,

I'm sure you didn't intend this to come across in a offensive manner,
but don't be suprised if you receive a small flury of in-defense-of-paul
mails. :) I don't know the actual hours spent, but Paul has put a good
deal of time of his own time (personal and work, I believe) into dbmail
over the years, and continues to do so on a very regular basis. He has
also been entirely open to contributions from others. Quite to the
contrary, it's the "more people contributing" who are frequently in
wanting.

Jesse



On Wed, 2009-02-25 at 23:24 +0200, Joan Moreau wrote:
> Hi Paul,
>
> It seems that you barely have any time on this project. How to move on
> and let more people contribute to this project ?
>
> Thanks
>
> JM

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vulture at netvulture

Feb 25, 2009, 2:19 PM

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Re: Resources on the project [In reply to]

Anyone can help contribute to the project

Testing is always needed. Having people to checkout out that commits are
doing what they are supposed to do along with not causing new issues
helps keep the active commiters on track and being able to fix new bugs
introduced faster.

Database optimization is one area where active development is not
currently focused on, but can benefit everyone. Anyone who wants to help
speed up queries, please keep in mind that we are now using LibZDB and
are active on SQLite, PostGres, and MySQL. New queries should be
compatible on all the backends. We are trying to avoid putting in
different queries for different database systems.

I believe that Paul is currently focusing on improving the daemons
efficiency by removing the single char reads with buffered reads.

I've been asleep at the wheel for a bit, so I don't really have much
going with my own development and I'm really more in testing mode now.

The main thing to do, if you are going to work with the C code, is to:
1. Check with the dev list to see if your goal(s) are inline with the
projects goal(s). There is nothing worse than putting in hours of work
on a patch to add a new feature where that feature was already shot down
in the past and would leave you with a patch that won't be committed.
2. Coordinate with others actively coding to make sure that you are
working on a different problem, so that your changes won't conflict with
other's changes, making a nightmare to take A + B to turn it into AB
3. Format your patches using git diff and send them to the dev mailing list.

Potential and Current Developers should checkout:
http://git.dbmail.eu/?p=paul/dbmail;a=summary
http://www.dbmail.org/dokuwiki/doku.php

To get started with your own git copy
`git clone git://git.dbmail.eu/paul/dbmail`
After that - update your copy with new commits
`git pull`

Thats all for now - Jon - A.K.A. The NetVulture

Jorge Bastos wrote:
> Paul always let more people to participate on the project.
> Just send a patch and he will include it.
>
> I don't think he's not having time for the project, he may be 50% of his
> time on it!
>
>
>
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: dbmail-bounces[at]dbmail.org [mailto:dbmail-bounces[at]dbmail.org] On
>> Behalf Of Joan Moreau
>> Sent: quarta-feira, 25 de Fevereiro de 2009 21:24
>> To: DBMail mailinglist
>> Subject: [Dbmail] Resources on the project
>>
>>
>> Hi Paul,
>>
>> It seems that you barely have any time on this project. How to move on
>> and let more people contribute to this project ?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> JM
>> _______________________________________________
>> DBmail mailing list
>> DBmail[at]dbmail.org
>> https://mailman.fastxs.nl/mailman/listinfo/dbmail
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
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>
>


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paul at nfg

Feb 26, 2009, 12:22 AM

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Re: Resources on the project [In reply to]

Joan Moreau wrote:

> It seems that you barely have any time on this project.

Well obviously you have no idea.

For me there is *no* business case for working on this project, other
than that I like working on it and that we use dbmail ourselves in our
hosting environment. We would like to start using the features added
during the 2.3 cycle in our production environment as soon as possible.
But 2.3 is not ready yet for production mode - as I've stated again and
again and again!

There have been times when I put in more hours than I'm putting in
currently. True. But at the moment I cannot afford to work on dbmail
during business hours for more than maybe ten or twenty percent of my
time. The rest is done after hours, for fun only. And then I'm still
working on it between eight and fifteen hours weekly, most of which is
done over the weekend in between my domestic responsibilities as a
husband and father of three.

> How to move on
> and let more people contribute to this project ?

Test, debug, fix, and submit patches using git-format-patch. Pretty much
like Jon outlined.

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