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mateusz at viste-family

Jul 17, 2013, 8:06 AM

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How do I send invitations to external people?

Hi list!

I'm running a small DaviCal install for a few users. It works fairly
well so far, but got one problem related to invitations. From time to
time, I need to send an invitation to a person that is not a registered
user on the DaviCal server, and... well, it simply doesn't work.

I though that these things were handled by the email client (via some
magic ics attachment), but apparently the mail clients we use
(Thunderbird and Apple mail) are somehow relying on the calendar server
for this. Thunderbird doesn't say anything, and the Apple client says
"You entered an invitee that wasn't recognized by the server".

Is there any special configuration I'd need to apply to make this work?
I tested the Zimbra OSE, and there the magic 'just happens', altough I
have no clue how it works under the hood...

In fact, I'm not even sure what version of DaviCal I'm running. When I
go to the setup.php page, I see this:

Current DAViCal version: Could not retrieve
'http://www.davical.org/current_davical_version?v=1.1.1'

Does this mean my version is 1.1.1 ? Or is there any other way to check
it out? I installed it via the apt-get package manager on my Debian
Squeeze OS.

I suppose the DaviCal server should send something by mail to the
external person, so it would require some mail configuration, but after
looking into the davical.conf file I couldn't see anything mail-related.
Am I missing something?

best regards,
Mateusz

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mgiashmera at lavabit

Jul 17, 2013, 10:30 AM

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Re: How do I send invitations to external people? [In reply to]

Hi Mateusz.
On 07/17/2013 05:06 PM, Mateusz Viste wrote:
> I'm running a small DaviCal install for a few users. It works fairly
> well so far, but got one problem related to invitations. From time to
> time, I need to send an invitation to a person that is not a registered
> user on the DaviCal server, and... well, it simply doesn't work.
>
> I though that these things were handled by the email client (via some
> magic ics attachment), but apparently the mail clients we use
> (Thunderbird and Apple mail) are somehow relying on the calendar server
> for this. Thunderbird doesn't say anything, and the Apple client says
> "You entered an invitee that wasn't recognized by the server".

There is no support for external invitations in Davical.
However for some calendars clients (such as thunderbird) you can force
the invitation to be mailed from the mail client by setting the config
option '$c->enable_auto_schedule = false;'.

This doesn't work out of the box for iCal you need to manually force
this in iCal per invitation or at least I haven't found a better
solution yet.

There are already many threads in Davical mailing list about external
invitations which you can find in archives
http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_name=davical-general.

> In fact, I'm not even sure what version of DaviCal I'm running. When I
> go to the setup.php page, I see this:
>
> Current DAViCal version: Could not retrieve
> 'http://www.davical.org/current_davical_version?v=1.1.1'

At the moment Davical's website is not responding.

> Does this mean my version is 1.1.1 ? Or is there any other way to check
> it out? I installed it via the apt-get package manager on my Debian
> Squeeze OS.

It seems (from the link) that you are running Davical version 1.1.1.

Cheers,
mgia


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mateusz at viste-family

Jul 17, 2013, 11:25 AM

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Re: How do I send invitations to external people? [In reply to]

Hi!

Thanks for your kind reply.

Well, it's kind of a disillusion to me that the feature is simply
non-existant, but I guess I will have to live with that :)

I see now that the subject has been brought already a few times on the list.

I did tried the "$c->enable_auto_schedule = false;" trick, but
unfortunately it hasn't changed anything. When I test with thunderbird
(+lightning) the checkbox 'notify attendees' is greyed out. As far as I
understand, it would mean that lightning thinks that the remote calendar
server will send invitations on his own. I noticed on the web that some
people got a similar problem when using google calendars.

Is the 'enable_auto_schedule' setting supposed to make Davical stop
advertising the 'I will send invitations myself' capability? And if so,
any idea why it doesn't seem to be applied? I restarted the whole server
to be sure, but still no change.

If the 'enable_auto_schedule' setting is not related to the capability
of sending invitations on server-side, then would there be any chance I
could cut out this capability from Davical, so my mail client could send
the invitations on his own?

ciao
Mateusz





On 07/17/2013 07:30 PM, mgia wrote:
> Hi Mateusz.
> On 07/17/2013 05:06 PM, Mateusz Viste wrote:
>> I'm running a small DaviCal install for a few users. It works fairly
>> well so far, but got one problem related to invitations. From time to
>> time, I need to send an invitation to a person that is not a registered
>> user on the DaviCal server, and... well, it simply doesn't work.
>>
>> I though that these things were handled by the email client (via some
>> magic ics attachment), but apparently the mail clients we use
>> (Thunderbird and Apple mail) are somehow relying on the calendar server
>> for this. Thunderbird doesn't say anything, and the Apple client says
>> "You entered an invitee that wasn't recognized by the server".
>
> There is no support for external invitations in Davical.
> However for some calendars clients (such as thunderbird) you can force
> the invitation to be mailed from the mail client by setting the config
> option '$c->enable_auto_schedule = false;'.
>
> This doesn't work out of the box for iCal you need to manually force
> this in iCal per invitation or at least I haven't found a better
> solution yet.
>
> There are already many threads in Davical mailing list about external
> invitations which you can find in archives
> http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_name=davical-general.
>
>> In fact, I'm not even sure what version of DaviCal I'm running. When I
>> go to the setup.php page, I see this:
>>
>> Current DAViCal version: Could not retrieve
>> 'http://www.davical.org/current_davical_version?v=1.1.1'
>
> At the moment Davical's website is not responding.
>
>> Does this mean my version is 1.1.1 ? Or is there any other way to check
>> it out? I installed it via the apt-get package manager on my Debian
>> Squeeze OS.
>
> It seems (from the link) that you are running Davical version 1.1.1.
>
> Cheers,
> mgia


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mateusz at viste-family

Jul 17, 2013, 11:43 AM

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Re: How do I send invitations to external people? [In reply to]

Ha, it works now!

The trick seems indeed to be related to "$c->enable_auto_schedule =
false;", but I had to remove and recreate my calendar in thunderbird to
make lightning allow me sending invitations by mail. Apparently
lightning seem to remember the capability of the server, and
removing/recreating the calendar make it repolling the 'auto_schedule'
capability.

Thanks for your help!

ciao
Mateusz




On 07/17/2013 08:25 PM, Mateusz Viste wrote:
> Hi!
>
> Thanks for your kind reply.
>
> Well, it's kind of a disillusion to me that the feature is simply
> non-existant, but I guess I will have to live with that :)
>
> I see now that the subject has been brought already a few times on the list.
>
> I did tried the "$c->enable_auto_schedule = false;" trick, but
> unfortunately it hasn't changed anything. When I test with thunderbird
> (+lightning) the checkbox 'notify attendees' is greyed out. As far as I
> understand, it would mean that lightning thinks that the remote calendar
> server will send invitations on his own. I noticed on the web that some
> people got a similar problem when using google calendars.
>
> Is the 'enable_auto_schedule' setting supposed to make Davical stop
> advertising the 'I will send invitations myself' capability? And if so,
> any idea why it doesn't seem to be applied? I restarted the whole server
> to be sure, but still no change.
>
> If the 'enable_auto_schedule' setting is not related to the capability
> of sending invitations on server-side, then would there be any chance I
> could cut out this capability from Davical, so my mail client could send
> the invitations on his own?
>
> ciao
> Mateusz
>
>
>
>
>
> On 07/17/2013 07:30 PM, mgia wrote:
>> Hi Mateusz.
>> On 07/17/2013 05:06 PM, Mateusz Viste wrote:
>>> I'm running a small DaviCal install for a few users. It works fairly
>>> well so far, but got one problem related to invitations. From time to
>>> time, I need to send an invitation to a person that is not a registered
>>> user on the DaviCal server, and... well, it simply doesn't work.
>>>
>>> I though that these things were handled by the email client (via some
>>> magic ics attachment), but apparently the mail clients we use
>>> (Thunderbird and Apple mail) are somehow relying on the calendar server
>>> for this. Thunderbird doesn't say anything, and the Apple client says
>>> "You entered an invitee that wasn't recognized by the server".
>>
>> There is no support for external invitations in Davical.
>> However for some calendars clients (such as thunderbird) you can force
>> the invitation to be mailed from the mail client by setting the config
>> option '$c->enable_auto_schedule = false;'.
>>
>> This doesn't work out of the box for iCal you need to manually force
>> this in iCal per invitation or at least I haven't found a better
>> solution yet.
>>
>> There are already many threads in Davical mailing list about external
>> invitations which you can find in archives
>> http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_name=davical-general.
>>
>>> In fact, I'm not even sure what version of DaviCal I'm running. When I
>>> go to the setup.php page, I see this:
>>>
>>> Current DAViCal version: Could not retrieve
>>> 'http://www.davical.org/current_davical_version?v=1.1.1'
>>
>> At the moment Davical's website is not responding.
>>
>>> Does this mean my version is 1.1.1 ? Or is there any other way to check
>>> it out? I installed it via the apt-get package manager on my Debian
>>> Squeeze OS.
>>
>> It seems (from the link) that you are running Davical version 1.1.1.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> mgia


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