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chrisr at digeo

May 11, 2006, 11:06 AM

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Still too much data

Hi, folks.

I've done a bit more testing. Conserver's dropping data before it even
hits 85kbps. It seems that minicom is also having the same issues with
dropping data that conserver is, and that makes me think that the *real*
issue may be the way cygwin, which both are using, handles serial I/O...
and TerraTerm and HyperTerminal don't seem to have this issue.

Has anybody else had this experience? I've got the sneaking feeling
that conserver just isn't the tool for anyone stuck with Windows, but I
won't be sure until I find a usb-to-serial thingie for my laptop running
SuSE this afternoon to find out.

Is there anything non-cygwin, windows-native, similar to conserver, just
in case I'm right? Or better ideas? There's no flow control (and never
will be) and the baud rate needs to stay at 115200. What are my options?

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Chris Riddoch
epistemological humility


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chrisr at digeo

May 16, 2006, 9:29 AM

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Re: Still too much data [In reply to]

Okay, I know it's cheesy to reply to my own posts, but I figure someone
going through the archives for this problem would want to know the answer.

My first theory was that cygwin was having issues. But then I stumbled
on a project, for other reasons, that's modified PuTTY for use as the
terminal for Cygwin: http://gecko.gc.maricopa.edu/~medgar/puttycyg/

It *seems* that the normal DOS-box terminal that Cygwin usually works
through is more than a little broken. Besides being annoying to resize,
and not really being a proper terminal emulator anyway, *it* seems to
have issues with data rates.

I ran this patched version of PuTTY, connected to one of my boxes,
triggered a huge spew of data, and looked back through it. No data lost
at all! If any of you run Cygwin, this is positively indispensable.

Of course, when run on Knoppix, conserver had no issues whatsoever. If
only... but anyway, I learned a lot from everyone's posts about the
topic, and I believe we could still lose data for lack of proper flow
control, but I'm confident I can now describe that as someone else's
problem. Thank you all for your help!

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cfowler at outpostsentinel

May 16, 2006, 9:50 AM

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Re: Still too much data [In reply to]

Back in the old days of doing much serial stuff I had a test I would
run on printers, terminals, etc to see if flow control was an issue.

Below is a sample test.

---------------------------------------------------------------------
[cfowler[at]ze1250 cfowler]$ cat test.pl
#!/usr/bin/perl

use strict;

for(my $x = 1; $x <= $ARGV[0]; $x++) {
printf "%04d
**********************************************************************\n", $x;
}
---------------------------------------------------------------------

The key here is that you look at the output. If you see lines missing
or something wrong then you know you have a flow control issue.


On Tue, 2006-05-16 at 12:29, Chris Riddoch wrote:
> Okay, I know it's cheesy to reply to my own posts, but I figure someone
> going through the archives for this problem would want to know the answer.
>
> My first theory was that cygwin was having issues. But then I stumbled
> on a project, for other reasons, that's modified PuTTY for use as the
> terminal for Cygwin: http://gecko.gc.maricopa.edu/~medgar/puttycyg/
>
> It *seems* that the normal DOS-box terminal that Cygwin usually works
> through is more than a little broken. Besides being annoying to resize,
> and not really being a proper terminal emulator anyway, *it* seems to
> have issues with data rates.
>
> I ran this patched version of PuTTY, connected to one of my boxes,
> triggered a huge spew of data, and looked back through it. No data lost
> at all! If any of you run Cygwin, this is positively indispensable.
>
> Of course, when run on Knoppix, conserver had no issues whatsoever. If
> only... but anyway, I learned a lot from everyone's posts about the
> topic, and I believe we could still lose data for lack of proper flow
> control, but I'm confident I can now describe that as someone else's
> problem. Thank you all for your help!

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mlh at zip

May 16, 2006, 4:30 PM

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Re: Still too much data [In reply to]

On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 10:29:51AM -0600, Chris Riddoch wrote:
> My first theory was that cygwin was having issues. But then I stumbled
> on a project, for other reasons, that's modified PuTTY for use as the
> terminal for Cygwin: http://gecko.gc.maricopa.edu/~medgar/puttycyg/
>

I usually install rxvt on cygwin, it's much closer
to what you expect from a terminal.
(despite the name it doesn't do X, so you don't
have to install all the X libs)
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