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rkml at cyberglobe

Jan 22, 2009, 8:49 AM

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Clam for W32 updates? Forgotten project?

Hello all,

Has Clam for W32 been abandoned? It is already 2 full versions behind and
would like to know if there are going to be further updates for it. If not,
anyone interested in programming the latest versions?

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bret.miller at wcg

Jan 22, 2009, 10:18 AM

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Re: Clam for W32 updates? Forgotten project? [In reply to]

Try here: http://oss.netfarm.it/clamav/
Bret

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michael.m.minor at gmail

Jan 22, 2009, 10:48 AM

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Re: Clam for W32 updates? Forgotten project? [In reply to]

Or here: http://hideout.ath.cx/clamav/

Michael M. Minor

On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Bret Miller <bret.miller[at]wcg.org> wrote:

> Try here: http://oss.netfarm.it/clamav/
> Bret
>
> _______________________________________________
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rob at invaluement

Jan 22, 2009, 11:16 AM

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Re: Clam for W32 updates? Forgotten project? [In reply to]

Bret Miller wrote:
> Try here: http://oss.netfarm.it/clamav

I'm confused about all the different versions... and not all of them
work as well as others. I needed a native win32 version that was
stable... and the one that Bret links to above is the _only_ one I was
able to find that satisfied that criteria. All the others (which I could
find) either were not stable, or were running in unix emulation mode
(cygwin). (not saying there isn't another stable win32 version... I may
not have tried them all... but, at the time I tested, this was the only
one that didn't crash frequently.)

--
Rob McEwen
http://dnsbl.invaluement.com/
rob[at]invaluement.com
+1 (478) 475-9032

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bruns at 2mbit

Jan 22, 2009, 11:41 AM

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Re: Clam for W32 updates? Forgotten project? [In reply to]

On 1/22/09 12:16 PM, Rob McEwen wrote:
> Bret Miller wrote:
>> Try here: http://oss.netfarm.it/clamav
>
> I'm confused about all the different versions... and not all of them
> work as well as others. I needed a native win32 version that was
> stable... and the one that Bret links to above is the _only_ one I was
> able to find that satisfied that criteria. All the others (which I could
> find) either were not stable, or were running in unix emulation mode
> (cygwin). (not saying there isn't another stable win32 version... I may
> not have tried them all... but, at the time I tested, this was the only
> one that didn't crash frequently.)
>

I've been getting reports from my users that ClamAV/SOSDG performs just
as well or performs better then the native Win32 version.

http://www.sosdg.org/clamav-win32

It may not be the most optimal way to run clamav, but I know of several
major ISPs that do use my build in production environments very happily.

--
Brielle Bruns
The Summit Open Source Development Group
http://www.sosdg.org / http://www.ahbl.org
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geoff at airstream

Jan 22, 2009, 11:44 AM

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Re: Clam for W32 updates? Forgotten project? [In reply to]

We just last week built an email server with clam AV. We tested four
different win32 ports and the release from http://oss.netfarm.it/clamav is
the most reliable, stable and runs using the least resources.

Regards,

Geoff Partridge

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On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 8:16 AM, Rob McEwen <rob[at]invaluement.com> wrote:

> Bret Miller wrote:
> > Try here: http://oss.netfarm.it/clamav
>
> I'm confused about all the different versions... and not all of them
> work as well as others. I needed a native win32 version that was
> stable... and the one that Bret links to above is the _only_ one I was
> able to find that satisfied that criteria. All the others (which I could
> find) either were not stable, or were running in unix emulation mode
> (cygwin). (not saying there isn't another stable win32 version... I may
> not have tried them all... but, at the time I tested, this was the only
> one that didn't crash frequently.)
>
> --
> Rob McEwen
> http://dnsbl.invaluement.com/
> rob[at]invaluement.com
> +1 (478) 475-9032
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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>
>
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tbb at hideout

Jan 22, 2009, 12:00 PM

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Re: Clam for W32 updates? Forgotten project? [In reply to]

Rob McEwen wrote:

> I'm confused about all the different versions... and not all of them
> work as well as others. I needed a native win32 version that was
> stable... and the one that Bret links to above is the _only_ one I was
> able to find that satisfied that criteria. All the others (which I could
> find) either were not stable, or were running in unix emulation mode
> (cygwin). (not saying there isn't another stable win32 version... I may
> not have tried them all... but, at the time I tested, this was the only
> one that didn't crash frequently.)

Actually there are not that many. There is the 'official' version from
http://w32.clamav.net/ which is currently outdated, probably because the
maintainer (Nigel Horne) has other priorities meanwhile as he became
ClamAV's product manager. Then there are the versions at
http://oss.netfarm.it and http://hideout.ath.cx/clamav (mine). Both
should really run equally well as they use the same codebase which is
maintained by Gianluigi Tiesi (the main programmer behind the ClamWin
engine). Personally I would stay away from Cygwin versions too.

Best regards,

Nico

--

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A: Why is putting a reply at the top of the message frowned upon?
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rob at invaluement

Jan 22, 2009, 12:20 PM

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Re: Clam for W32 updates? Forgotten project? [In reply to]

Brielle Bruns wrote:
> I've been getting reports from my users that ClamAV/SOSDG performs just
> as well or performs better then the native Win32 version.
>
> http://www.sosdg.org/clamav-win32
>
> It may not be the most optimal way to run clamav, but I know of several
> major ISPs that do use my build in production environments very happily.
>

I don't doubt your claims. The reason for my needing a win32 version is
to avoid "cygwin hell"... (which is sort of like "dll hell") where
different versions of "cygwin" using by different programs on the same
server causes conflicts. Now I don't have to worry about that. (My other
mission-critical program which uses "cygwin" doesn't have a Win32 version.)

--
Rob McEwen
http://dnsbl.invaluement.com/
rob[at]invaluement.com
+1 (478) 475-9032

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bret.miller at wcg

Jan 22, 2009, 12:22 PM

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Re: Clam for W32 updates? Forgotten project? [In reply to]

On 1/22/2009 11:41 AM, Brielle Bruns wrote:
> On 1/22/09 12:16 PM, Rob McEwen wrote:
>
>> Bret Miller wrote:
>>
>>> Try here: http://oss.netfarm.it/clamav
>>>
>> I'm confused about all the different versions... and not all of them
>> work as well as others. I needed a native win32 version that was
>> stable... and the one that Bret links to above is the _only_ one I was
>> able to find that satisfied that criteria. All the others (which I could
>> find) either were not stable, or were running in unix emulation mode
>> (cygwin). (not saying there isn't another stable win32 version... I may
>> not have tried them all... but, at the time I tested, this was the only
>> one that didn't crash frequently.)
>>
>>
>
> I've been getting reports from my users that ClamAV/SOSDG performs just
> as well or performs better then the native Win32 version.
>
> http://www.sosdg.org/clamav-win32
>
> It may not be the most optimal way to run clamav, but I know of several
> major ISPs that do use my build in production environments very happily.
>
To be fair, I've rarely had problems with the SOSDG build. I just prefer
to run native when there is one that is stable and up-to-date. ClamAV
performance has never been a real issue on our mail server (can anyone
say "SpamAssassin"?). Stability has, at times been an issue, so we've
used most of the Windows builds at one time or another. I currently
prefer the one I just recommended (http://oss.netfarm.it/clamav), but
the SOSDG and tBB builds also work well. I haven't tested all the latest
build, but in the last few, clamd seems reasonably stable in these three
up-to-date builds.

Each build has its idiosyncrasies, so pay attention to the command-line
arguments and configuration files when switching builds.

Bret

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rkml at cyberglobe

Jan 26, 2009, 7:11 AM

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Re: Clam for W32 updates? Forgotten project? [In reply to]

Hi Rob,

Instead of creating 2 versions, why not both collaborate on one version and
therefore reduce the amount of confusion around. I would recommend placing
it at Sourceforge and you can both collaborate for future releases.

Just a thought.

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From: "tBB" <tbb[at]hideout.ath.cx>
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 3:00 PM
To: <clamav-win32[at]lists.clamav.net>
Subject: Re: [clamav-win32] Clam for W32 updates? Forgotten project?

> Rob McEwen wrote:
>
>> I'm confused about all the different versions... and not all of them
>> work as well as others. I needed a native win32 version that was
>> stable... and the one that Bret links to above is the _only_ one I was
>> able to find that satisfied that criteria. All the others (which I could
>> find) either were not stable, or were running in unix emulation mode
>> (cygwin). (not saying there isn't another stable win32 version... I may
>> not have tried them all... but, at the time I tested, this was the only
>> one that didn't crash frequently.)
>
> Actually there are not that many. There is the 'official' version from
> http://w32.clamav.net/ which is currently outdated, probably because the
> maintainer (Nigel Horne) has other priorities meanwhile as he became
> ClamAV's product manager. Then there are the versions at
> http://oss.netfarm.it and http://hideout.ath.cx/clamav (mine). Both
> should really run equally well as they use the same codebase which is
> maintained by Gianluigi Tiesi (the main programmer behind the ClamWin
> engine). Personally I would stay away from Cygwin versions too.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Nico
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Q: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation.
> A: Why is putting a reply at the top of the message frowned upon?
> _______________________________________________
> http://lists.clamav.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/clamav-win32
>
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rkml at cyberglobe

Jan 26, 2009, 7:38 AM

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Re: Clam for W32 updates? Forgotten project? [In reply to]

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From: "Bret Miller" <bret.miller[at]wcg.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 3:22 PM
To: <clamav-win32[at]lists.clamav.net>
Subject: Re: [clamav-win32] Clam for W32 updates? Forgotten project?

> To be fair, I've rarely had problems with the SOSDG build. I just prefer
> to run native when there is one that is stable and up-to-date. ClamAV
> performance has never been a real issue on our mail server (can anyone
> say "SpamAssassin"?). Stability has, at times been an issue, so we've
> used most of the Windows builds at one time or another. I currently
> prefer the one I just recommended (http://oss.netfarm.it/clamav), but
> the SOSDG and tBB builds also work well. I haven't tested all the latest
> build, but in the last few, clamd seems reasonably stable in these three
> up-to-date builds.
>
Likewise, I prefer the Win32 Native mode as well. Our Mail Server performs
exceptionally well with CLAMAV. We don't use SpamAssassin as we have an
all-in-one mail server that works for our needs. Surgemail by Netwinsite is
the least expensive, Full featured mail server we found out there and
feature request/bug updates that have a minimum of 8 business hours to a max
of 40 business hours turnaround is something I prefer to have and is NOT
available by any other mail server vendor I have seen to date.

My old Mail server vendor, Rockliffe Mailsite, took forever to release new
features and updates to fix bugs, let alone that I had to develop the mail
sieve filters for the community to help reduce junk mail for all as in
interim... until I got fed up with the 100% nailed up CPU for about 100k
daily messages. Plus it costed almost 10 times more than what Surgemail
costs. Surgemail is Multi-platformed too.

ClamAV in daemon mode works beautifully with this product (even though it
also has its own AVAST AV plugin, they support third party AVs.) My CPU on
the mail server, which processes about 250,000 messages daily, never exceeds
7% and averages around 5% with both mail server and ClamAV running. CPU is
only a Athlon 1700+ with 1gb ram. Currently for the past 24 hours, CPU
average is about 2%.

If you guys really want to lock things down, consider turning on SPF and DK
authentication only. Watch the Spam level drop 95+%. Only issue you will
have are other domains who refuse to add either a SPF or DK signature. With
modern times, calls for modern security measures. Upgrade or be left behind
is what I think most mail admins should be doing. We warned incoming
clients, 1 year beforehand, who did not have a minimum of a SPF record and
let them know that their domain will no longer talk with our mail server if
they did not have one. Virus activity went from an average of 45
messages/hour to only 3 messages/hour.

Therefore, if you really need to protect your clients, It is not only that
you need to put in an Anti-virus solution to work, you also need to start
securing your mail server with modern recommendations to reduce the spread
of the viruses as well.

The one thing I would really like to see is if ClamAV can run in service
mode natively. Then I would not need to login the machine after a restart
to start up the dos batch file to keep it up and running.

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breiter at wolfereiter

Jan 26, 2009, 8:15 AM

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Re: Clam for W32 updates? Forgotten project? [In reply to]

Brielle Bruns wrote:
> It may not be the most optimal way to run clamav, but I know of
> several major ISPs that do use my build in production environments very
happily.

FWIW, there are actually 3 ways to make a build that runs on the Windows
platform:

1. *NIX emulation via linking to cygwin1.dll
2. Native Win32 using pthread for Win32
3. Native Unix on the NT kernel via the Interix subsystem (aka Services for
Unix [SFU] or Subsystem for Unix Applications [SUA])

All three of these options are frustrating in different ways:

* Option 1 leads to cygwin dll hell and emulation performance hit.
* Option 2 seems to have been started by a core ClamAV team member but now
seems to be unmaintained.
* Option 3 is straightforward but then the thing runs in a separate
subsystem from the standard win32 apps (including using POSIX-style rooted
paths) which is a little mind bending.

The question I have is why the ClamAV project ignores the Windows platform
so completely. Windows users account for a very large portion of the desktop
market no matter how you calculate it. Presumably, the project would have
nothing to lose and plenty to gain by providing blessed builds.

Cheers.

-Brian

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sarocet at gmail

Jan 26, 2009, 4:23 PM

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Re: Clam for W32 updates? Forgotten project? [In reply to]

rkml wrote:
> The one thing I would really like to see is if ClamAV can run in service
> mode natively. Then I would not need to login the machine after a restart
> to start up the dos batch file to keep it up and running.
It doesn't need to run as a service. If you can run it just from a batch
file, it's just a matter of making it autorun.

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rkml at cyberglobe

Jan 26, 2009, 4:38 PM

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Re: Clam for W32 updates? Forgotten project? [In reply to]

ClamAV was designed for the Server Market and since most servers are *nix
based, this is the reason why. For Windows Desktop there are other
solutions that are better than ClamAV like Avast, AVG, for the general user
(sorry but it is true). If you are running a Windows Server though, the
only option that is worth trying without spending a lot of dough is ClamAV
for Win32.

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From: "Brian A. Reiter" <breiter[at]wolfereiter.com>
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 11:15 AM
To: <clamav-win32[at]lists.clamav.net>
Subject: Re: [clamav-win32] Clam for W32 updates? Forgotten project?

> Brielle Bruns wrote:
>> It may not be the most optimal way to run clamav, but I know of
>> several major ISPs that do use my build in production environments very
> happily.
>
> FWIW, there are actually 3 ways to make a build that runs on the Windows
> platform:
>
> 1. *NIX emulation via linking to cygwin1.dll
> 2. Native Win32 using pthread for Win32
> 3. Native Unix on the NT kernel via the Interix subsystem (aka Services
> for
> Unix [SFU] or Subsystem for Unix Applications [SUA])
>
> All three of these options are frustrating in different ways:
>
> * Option 1 leads to cygwin dll hell and emulation performance hit.
> * Option 2 seems to have been started by a core ClamAV team member but now
> seems to be unmaintained.
> * Option 3 is straightforward but then the thing runs in a separate
> subsystem from the standard win32 apps (including using POSIX-style rooted
> paths) which is a little mind bending.
>
> The question I have is why the ClamAV project ignores the Windows platform
> so completely. Windows users account for a very large portion of the
> desktop
> market no matter how you calculate it. Presumably, the project would have
> nothing to lose and plenty to gain by providing blessed builds.
>
> Cheers.
>
> -Brian
>
> _______________________________________________
> http://lists.clamav.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/clamav-win32
>
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rkml at cyberglobe

Jan 26, 2009, 4:40 PM

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Re: Clam for W32 updates? Forgotten project? [In reply to]

True but that is where the problem lies... When you are running an
unattended server, you would not want the machine to log in after a reboot
if your machine is in a remote location. You want to make sure it runs as a
service without logging into it.

What happens if someone gains access to the machine locally cause you gave
him the "KEYS" to the house...

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From: "Sarocet" <sarocet[at]gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 7:23 PM
To: <clamav-win32[at]lists.clamav.net>
Subject: Re: [clamav-win32] Clam for W32 updates? Forgotten project?

> rkml wrote:
>> The one thing I would really like to see is if ClamAV can run in service
>> mode natively. Then I would not need to login the machine after a
>> restart
>> to start up the dos batch file to keep it up and running.
> It doesn't need to run as a service. If you can run it just from a batch
> file, it's just a matter of making it autorun.
>
> _______________________________________________
> http://lists.clamav.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/clamav-win32
>
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breiter at wolfereiter

Jan 26, 2009, 6:39 PM

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Re: Clam for W32 updates? Forgotten project? [In reply to]

> rkml wrote:
>> The one thing I would really like to see is if ClamAV can run in service
>> mode natively.

FWIW. The Interix subsystem (SFU/SUA) is very much a BSD-flavored UNIX
environment. If you build ClamAV under Interix then clamd can be configured
as a daemon process which starts automatically when the system starts.
Freshclam run daemonized or on a cron schedule.

Cheers.

-Brian

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rkml at cyberglobe

Jan 26, 2009, 9:33 PM

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Re: Clam for W32 updates? Forgotten project? [In reply to]

Interesting.... Has anyone been able to create such a build? Would a
FreeBSD build suffice?

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From: "Brian A. Reiter" <breiter[at]wolfereiter.com>
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 9:39 PM
To: <clamav-win32[at]lists.clamav.net>
Subject: Re: [clamav-win32] Clam for W32 updates? Forgotten project?

>> rkml wrote:
>>> The one thing I would really like to see is if ClamAV can run in service
>>> mode natively.
>
> FWIW. The Interix subsystem (SFU/SUA) is very much a BSD-flavored UNIX
> environment. If you build ClamAV under Interix then clamd can be
> configured
> as a daemon process which starts automatically when the system starts.
> Freshclam run daemonized or on a cron schedule.
>
> Cheers.
>
> -Brian
>
> _______________________________________________
> http://lists.clamav.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/clamav-win32
>
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jeremy at fairbrass

Jan 27, 2009, 1:20 AM

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Re: Clam for W32 updates? Forgotten project? [In reply to]

"rkml" <rkml[at]cyberglobe.net> wrote in message news:05FB7C0252944A9D85B5F912F65B7916[at]rkhome...
>
> The one thing I would really like to see is if ClamAV can run in service
> mode natively. Then I would not need to login the machine after a restart
> to start up the dos batch file to keep it up and running.
>

I use the native Windows build at http://hideout.ath.cx/clamav, which does in fact have service mode support built in. If you run
clamd.exe and/or freshclam.exe from the command line using the --install switch, it will install a Windows service for each of them.
And it doesn't use Cygwin either! :)

Cheers,
Jeremy

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paul+cv at blakecomp

Jan 27, 2009, 1:56 AM

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Re: Clam for W32 updates? Forgotten project? [In reply to]

On 26 Jan 2009 at 10:38, rkml wrote:

> The one thing I would really like to see is if ClamAV can run in service
> mode natively. Then I would not need to login the machine after a restart
> to start up the dos batch file to keep it up and running.

You should try one of the good native ports at
http://oss.netfarm.it/clamav or http://hideout.ath.cx/clamav :

C:\clamav>clamd --help

Clam AntiVirus Daemon 0.94.2
(C) 2002 - 2007 ClamAV Team - http://www.clamav.net/team

--help -h Show this help.
--version -V Show version number.
--debug Enable debug mode.
--config-file=FILE -c FILE Read configuration from FILE.

Windows Service:
--daemon Start in Service mode
(internal)
--install Install Windows Service
--uninstall Uninstall Windows Service

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paul+cv at blakecomp

Jan 27, 2009, 2:08 AM

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Re: Clam for W32 updates? Forgotten project? [In reply to]

On 26 Jan 2009 at 11:15, Brian A. Reiter wrote:

> * Option 2 seems to have been started by a core ClamAV team member but now
> seems to be unmaintained.

> The question I have is why the ClamAV project ignores the Windows platform
> so completely. Windows users account for a very large portion of the desktop
> market no matter how you calculate it. Presumably, the project would have
> nothing to lose and plenty to gain by providing blessed builds.

Don't forget Clamwin http://www.clamwin.com/

They don't distribute clamd with the normal package, but it is
available from a developer's site at http://oss.netfarm.it

Also, although the semi-official port at w32.clamav.net was abandoned
a year ago, the Clamav team have stated that they intend to issue a
binary distribution for Windows - possibly for the 0.95 release.

paul

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breiter at wolfereiter

Jan 27, 2009, 4:15 AM

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Re: Clam for W32 updates? Forgotten project? [In reply to]

>> rkml wrote:
>>> The one thing I would really like to see is if ClamAV can run in service
>>> mode natively.
>>
>> FWIW. The Interix subsystem (SFU/SUA) is very much a BSD-flavored UNIX
>> environment. If you build ClamAV under Interix then clamd can be
>> configured
>> as a daemon process which starts automatically when the system starts.
>> Freshclam run daemonized or on a cron schedule.
>
>Interesting.... Has anyone been able to create such a build? Would a
>FreeBSD build suffice?

A lot of the Interix source was forked from the OpenBSD project but you
can't use binaries from another platform. You would have to build from
source on the target Interix platform using the SDK tools provided by
Microsoft and you will need to get other things like GMP and libtool from
the community "tools warehouse" maintainted by Interopsystems. The ancient
last build I packaged should still be available, too.

http://www.suacommunity.com/tool_warehouse.htm

I used to maintain builds for Interix of ClamAV for Interix. It isn't too
terribly difficult. The main thing to be aware of is that the UNIX subsystem
can interact with the "Windows" subsystem. The main thing I would do was add
a few lines of code to check for Windows paths being sent and patch the
paths to be POSIX.

Sometimes you have to futz with the header file created by the congifure
script. For one thing, I recall that it always detects poll(3) but poll(3)
is only implemented for internal use of the proc filesystem in Interix and
can't be used, so I would always have to manually undefined HAVE_POLL.

There is a built-in function in Interix to convert Windows-style paths to
POSIX-style paths, winpath2unix(2). It is defined in interix.h. Here's how
to patch ClamAV to make use of this feature of the Interix platform.

Add to misc.h:

#ifdef __INTERIX
int iswinpath( const char *filename );
char *convertwinpath( const char *filename );
#endif

Add to misc.c:

#ifdef __INTERIX
int iswinpath( const char *filename )
{
int iswinpath = 0;
char c;
while( c = *filename++ )
{
if( c == '\\' || c == ':' )
{
iswinpath = 1;
break;
}
}
return iswinpath;
}

char *convertwinpath( const char *filename )
{
char errbuff[512];
char path[PATH_MAX];

if ( winpath2unix( filename, 0, path, sizeof(path) ) != 0 )
{
snprintf( errbuff, sizeof(errbuff), "ERROR: Unable to
convert Windows path \"%s\" to POSIX.\n", filename );
}
return path;
}
#endif

Wherever paths come into clamav such as an argv[] to clamscan or the scan
function (scanner.c) of clamd add this to patch the filename:

#if __INTERIX
if( iswinpath( filename ) )
filename = convertwinpath( filename );
#endif

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sarocet at gmail

Jan 27, 2009, 8:20 AM

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rkml wrote:
> True but that is where the problem lies... When you are running an
> unattended server, you would not want the machine to log in after a reboot
> if your machine is in a remote location. You want to make sure it runs as a
> service without logging into it.
>
> What happens if someone gains access to the machine locally cause you gave
> him the "KEYS" to the house...
>

It's exactly the same issue as having to manually log in to run a batch
file. If it runs in HKLM autorun it
doesn't need a user logged in.

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jeffshead at gmail

Jan 27, 2009, 8:52 AM

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"If you run clamd.exe and/or freshclam.exe from the command line using the
--install switch, it will install a Windows service for each of them."

I'm not sure I understand. Are you saying one just needs to run each '.exe'
with the '-install' switch (one time) and that will create a Windows service
for each that can then be set up to run while logged off?

So far, I have only been able to get Nigel's version with Power Tools to
work properly with my e-mail server and a Perl upload script. I have tried
the others with third party Windows service makers, but could not get them
to work.

--

-----Original Message-----
From: clamav-win32-bounces[at]lists.clamav.net
[mailto:clamav-win32-bounces[at]lists.clamav.net] On Behalf Of Jeremy
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 4:20 AM
To: clamav-win32[at]lists.clamav.net
Subject: Re: [clamav-win32] Clam for W32 updates? Forgotten project?

"rkml" <rkml[at]cyberglobe.net> wrote in message
news:05FB7C0252944A9D85B5F912F65B7916[at]rkhome...
>
> The one thing I would really like to see is if ClamAV can run in service
> mode natively. Then I would not need to login the machine after a restart
> to start up the dos batch file to keep it up and running.
>

I use the native Windows build at http://hideout.ath.cx/clamav, which does
in fact have service mode support built in. If you run
clamd.exe and/or freshclam.exe from the command line using the --install
switch, it will install a Windows service for each of them.
And it doesn't use Cygwin either! :)

Cheers,
Jeremy

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Jan 27, 2009, 11:55 AM

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On 1/26/2009 4:40 PM, rkml wrote:
> True but that is where the problem lies... When you are running an
> unattended server, you would not want the machine to log in after a reboot
> if your machine is in a remote location. You want to make sure it runs as a
> service without logging into it.
>
> What happens if someone gains access to the machine locally cause you gave
> him the "KEYS" to the house...
>
>
>
I have run ClamD as a service for serveral years using my own service
app to run it. It has worked with the all the different builds I listed
the other day. The service app requires .NET framework but it works.
In theory, you could just add it to HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Run
and let it run without console access.

Bret
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Jan 27, 2009, 11:55 AM

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On 1/26/2009 4:38 PM, rkml wrote:
> ClamAV was designed for the Server Market and since most servers are *nix
> based, this is the reason why. For Windows Desktop there are other
> solutions that are better than ClamAV like Avast, AVG, for the general user
> (sorry but it is true). If you are running a Windows Server though, the
> only option that is worth trying without spending a lot of dough is ClamAV
> for Win32.
>
Some smaller AV companies include the ability to run on a server when
you license their network version. This seriously reduces the cost of
running AV on a server, though I'd argue that AVG isn't so stable for
command-line use in a mail server. That is, I tried it and it crashes.
ClamAV has been fairly stable and reliable though I've had to switch
builds at times due to instability or performance issues.

Didn't know about the --install parameter... that's cool and I may
decide to abandon my project in favor of that if it works.

Thanks,
Bret
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