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james.henrydoss at gmail

Aug 1, 2012, 11:33 AM

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Android port for ClamAV

Has anyone attempted ClamAV porting to android using NDK.

Please let me know.

I am looking for a open source security scan app for an Android device.

James Henrydoss
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markjallan at blueyonder

Aug 2, 2012, 1:45 AM

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Re: Android port for ClamAV [In reply to]

Is android development not done in Java? ClamAV is written in C; porting would not be a simple matter.

M

On 1 Aug 2012, at 19:33, james henrydoss <james.henrydoss [at] gmail> wrote:

> Has anyone attempted ClamAV porting to android using NDK.
>
> Please let me know.
>
> I am looking for a open source security scan app for an Android device.
>
> James Henrydoss
> _______________________________________________
> Help us build a comprehensive ClamAV guide: visit http://wiki.clamav.net
> http://www.clamav.net/support/ml

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me at junc

Aug 2, 2012, 3:19 AM

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Re: Android port for ClamAV [In reply to]

Den 2012-08-02 10:45, Mark Allan skrev:
> Is android development not done in Java? ClamAV is written in C;
> porting would not be a simple matter.

java is not a problem on nokia phones :)

the only problem is to get signatures for nokia malware without forced
main.* and daily.* integretion, are anyone ready to waste ram space on
signatures that newer hits any real malware on android ?

and clamav is linux btw, and android is linux, compile and go

that sayed, it would properly be better to use rpc calls to some clouds
where ram limit is not a problem, but this will so make expensive mobile
trafic, so have a flat mobile abonoment is good

if one like to secure android phones, start removing 99% of software
installs, it just a phone, not google center :=)


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skraw at ithnet

Aug 2, 2012, 4:13 AM

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Re: Android port for ClamAV [In reply to]

On Thu, 02 Aug 2012 12:19:36 +0200
Benny Pedersen <me [at] junc> wrote:

> Den 2012-08-02 10:45, Mark Allan skrev:
> > Is android development not done in Java? ClamAV is written in C;
> > porting would not be a simple matter.
>
> java is not a problem on nokia phones :)
>
> the only problem is to get signatures for nokia malware without forced
> main.* and daily.* integretion, are anyone ready to waste ram space on
> signatures that newer hits any real malware on android ?

Honestly, nokia is dead. you should not give to much of a thought on that.
A modern phone for which clamav should probably be ported has at least 16 GB
of internal flash - and if you are a smart buyer it has probably an additional
64 GB of external - plugged in - flash. Really, space is no problem at all on
a smartphone today.
PS: if you really mean RAM in your message, well, the smartphone of today has
pretty much the same amount as a desktop pc.

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me at junc

Aug 2, 2012, 5:30 AM

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Re: Android port for ClamAV [In reply to]

Den 2012-08-02 13:13, Stephan von Krawczynski skrev:

> Honestly, nokia is dead.

you have one ?

well all my nokia phones still works, that includes the old one 5110 :)

> you should not give to much of a thought on that.

i will say lunia is dead, people would not have windows on there
phones, where not even there addressbooks can sync at ovi

> A modern phone for which clamav should probably be ported has at
> least 16 GB
> of internal flash

maybe you forget that android phones can be small in price as 999 dkr ?
(130 Euro)

and i dont think it have that specs, nice if it have, but so much more
to not get a overprised smartphone like apple :)

> - and if you are a smart buyer it has probably an
> additional 64 GB of external - plugged in - flash. Really, space is
> no problem at all on
> a smartphone today.

why not hook one usb 3.x harddisk on at 3TB ? :)

> PS: if you really mean RAM in your message, well, the smartphone of
> today has
> pretty much the same amount as a desktop pc.

question is so, is it a phone ?

my real point is that malvare can be tested elsewhere before its to
late on phones, i think apple have a point
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james.henrydoss at gmail

Aug 2, 2012, 5:51 AM

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Re: Android port for ClamAV [In reply to]

Can't we use the NDK. NDK is for native applications C/C++.

James Henrydoss



On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 4:45 AM, Mark Allan <markjallan [at] blueyonder>wrote:

> Is android development not done in Java? ClamAV is written in C; porting
> would not be a simple matter.
>
> M
>
> On 1 Aug 2012, at 19:33, james henrydoss <james.henrydoss [at] gmail>
> wrote:
>
> > Has anyone attempted ClamAV porting to android using NDK.
> >
> > Please let me know.
> >
> > I am looking for a open source security scan app for an Android device.
> >
> > James Henrydoss
> > _______________________________________________
> > Help us build a comprehensive ClamAV guide: visit http://wiki.clamav.net
> > http://www.clamav.net/support/ml
>
> _______________________________________________
> Help us build a comprehensive ClamAV guide: visit http://wiki.clamav.net
> http://www.clamav.net/support/ml
>
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skraw at ithnet

Aug 4, 2012, 11:28 AM

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Re: Android port for ClamAV [In reply to]

On Thu, 02 Aug 2012 14:30:14 +0200
Benny Pedersen <me [at] junc> wrote:

> Den 2012-08-02 13:13, Stephan von Krawczynski skrev:
>
> > Honestly, nokia is dead.
>
> you have one ?
>
> well all my nokia phones still works, that includes the old one 5110 :)

Really, lets stay serious and look at the company. It currently gets
completely erased by its (former?) MS top manager.

> > you should not give to much of a thought on that.
>
> i will say lunia is dead, people would not have windows on there
> phones, where not even there addressbooks can sync at ovi

Take a look at the market shares of the different mobile OS's. It is pretty
simple to find out that not only this is a reason nobody really wants windows
on a phone.

> > A modern phone for which clamav should probably be ported has at
> > least 16 GB
> > of internal flash
>
> maybe you forget that android phones can be small in price as 999 dkr ?
> (130 Euro)

And as we are talking they get cheaper and cheaper. Your argument sounds like
the famous "nobody needs more than 640 KByte of RAM"...

> and i dont think it have that specs, nice if it have, but so much more
> to not get a overprised smartphone like apple :)

Well, buy Samsung then. It's best anyway ;-)

> > - and if you are a smart buyer it has probably an
> > additional 64 GB of external - plugged in - flash. Really, space is
> > no problem at all on
> > a smartphone today.
>
> why not hook one usb 3.x harddisk on at 3TB ? :)

Guy, believe it or not, lots of such phones are out there. Look at the latest
market share analysis regarding Android. And they won't get less, whereas
phones you call a phone now will be vanished in around 1-2 years.

> > PS: if you really mean RAM in your message, well, the smartphone of
> > today has
> > pretty much the same amount as a desktop pc.
>
> question is so, is it a phone ?

Obviously not, it is a computer you can do calls with. In fact its the
bleeding edge of technology nowadays.

> my real point is that malvare can be tested elsewhere before its to
> late on phones, i think apple have a point

Apple really nowhere has any point - besides creating religious backgrounds
for products.
You have a computer, so create the software like that. And if you do not want
to find out everybody including your neighbors dog reads your data (contacts,
pictures, emails, sms, name-one), then stop that cloud-sh*t.

skraw's 1. law of human life:
concentration leads to corruption.
(in every semantics of the words)

In this case: if you concentrate the data of millions of people in a "cloud"
hosted by name-one, you can be sure that the data gets corrupted there in the
sense of "stolen", "lost", "changed by accident or by intention".


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jimlinux at commspeed

Aug 4, 2012, 1:00 PM

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Re: Android port for ClamAV [In reply to]

On 08/02/2012 03:19 AM, Benny Pedersen wrote:
<snip>
>
>
> if one like to secure android phones, start removing 99% of software
> installs, it just a phone, not google center :=)
>
>
</snip>

Thanks Benny, I so have to agree, if you want to have a portable
computer to make phone calls with, install Skype (or any similar app) on
your laptop and carry your laptop with you.

Jim

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skraw at ithnet

Aug 5, 2012, 2:58 AM

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Re: Android port for ClamAV [In reply to]

On Sat, 04 Aug 2012 13:00:24 -0700
Jim Preston <jimlinux [at] commspeed> wrote:

> On 08/02/2012 03:19 AM, Benny Pedersen wrote:
> <snip>
> >
> >
> > if one like to secure android phones, start removing 99% of software
> > installs, it just a phone, not google center :=)
> >
> >
> </snip>
>
> Thanks Benny, I so have to agree, if you want to have a portable
> computer to make phone calls with, install Skype (or any similar app) on
> your laptop and carry your laptop with you.
>
> Jim

It seems that you have a hard time accepting that computers just got a lot
smaller in your lifetime...
If you want to do calls and like a bigger screen you could as well have your
tablet computer with you and use Google Talk (Video), or a simple phone app.
Still your tab may run Android and have lots of RAM and flash available.
And if you really want a keyboard you can attach one (like Asus eeePad dock or
quite some others via BT)
My personal choice is the smartphone, not the tablet. But that's only me ...

--
Regards,
Stephan
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cannewilson at googlemail

Aug 5, 2012, 6:03 AM

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Re: Android port for ClamAV [In reply to]

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On 05/08/12 10:58, Stephan von Krawczynski wrote:
> On Sat, 04 Aug 2012 13:00:24 -0700 Jim Preston
> <jimlinux [at] commspeed> wrote:
>
>> On 08/02/2012 03:19 AM, Benny Pedersen wrote: <snip>
>>>
>>>
>>> if one like to secure android phones, start removing 99% of
>>> software installs, it just a phone, not google center :=)
>>>
>>>
>> </snip>
>>
>> Thanks Benny, I so have to agree, if you want to have a portable
>> computer to make phone calls with, install Skype (or any similar
>> app) on your laptop and carry your laptop with you.
>>
>> Jim
>
> It seems that you have a hard time accepting that computers just
> got a lot smaller in your lifetime... If you want to do calls and
> like a bigger screen you could as well have your tablet computer
> with you and use Google Talk (Video), or a simple phone app. Still
> your tab may run Android and have lots of RAM and flash available.
> And if you really want a keyboard you can attach one (like Asus
> eeePad dock or quite some others via BT) My personal choice is the
> smartphone, not the tablet. But that's only me ...
>
We have a saying "horses for courses". What suits one person's work
pattern will not suit another's. It really doesn't matter - we all
use what we like to use.

Anne
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