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cajun at cajuninc

May 25, 2009, 4:22 AM

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Upgrade very old Clamav

I have a client who for a variety of reasons is still running Fedora
Core 3. I know he has worse problems that Clamav being out of date with
this, but I'm wondering if there is a way to get Clamav up to date on
this system.

Previously all upgrades were done via RPM, which of course has not been
possible for a long time.

If I were to remove the existing clamav (clamav-0.88.7-1) and install
the current version from source, are the libraries and all there that
are needed to compile the current version on this old machine? I would
think probably they are not, but I'd like to confirm this with someone
more knowledgable.

Thanks,
Mike

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acabng at digitalfuture

May 25, 2009, 4:54 AM

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Re: Upgrade very old Clamav [In reply to]

M. Lewis wrote:
> I have a client who for a variety of reasons is still running Fedora
> Core 3. I know he has worse problems that Clamav being out of date with
> this, but I'm wondering if there is a way to get Clamav up to date on
> this system.
>
> Previously all upgrades were done via RPM, which of course has not been
> possible for a long time.
>
> If I were to remove the existing clamav (clamav-0.88.7-1) and install
> the current version from source, are the libraries and all there that
> are needed to compile the current version on this old machine? I would
> think probably they are not, but I'd like to confirm this with someone
> more knowledgable.

Hi,

you you have gcc 2.95 or less, then forget about compiling it. You will
get any sort of compilation errors. Working them around is not trivial BTW.

If you can somehow get a gcc 3.x installed then you should be able to
compile clamav without major problems.
Old libraries should link ok (although most of them are probably
exploitable), with the exception of libmilter. If you don't need
clamav-milter that shouldn't really bother you.

-acab
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cajun at cajuninc

May 25, 2009, 5:01 AM

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Re: Upgrade very old Clamav [In reply to]

aCaB wrote:
> M. Lewis wrote:
>> I have a client who for a variety of reasons is still running Fedora
>> Core 3. I know he has worse problems that Clamav being out of date with
>> this, but I'm wondering if there is a way to get Clamav up to date on
>> this system.
>>
>> Previously all upgrades were done via RPM, which of course has not been
>> possible for a long time.
>>
>> If I were to remove the existing clamav (clamav-0.88.7-1) and install
>> the current version from source, are the libraries and all there that
>> are needed to compile the current version on this old machine? I would
>> think probably they are not, but I'd like to confirm this with someone
>> more knowledgable.
>
> Hi,
>
> you you have gcc 2.95 or less, then forget about compiling it. You will
> get any sort of compilation errors. Working them around is not trivial BTW.
>
> If you can somehow get a gcc 3.x installed then you should be able to
> compile clamav without major problems.
> Old libraries should link ok (although most of them are probably
> exploitable), with the exception of libmilter. If you don't need
> clamav-milter that shouldn't really bother you.
>
> -acab

Thanks acab. That's about what I thought. I note you said 'somehow get a
gcc 3.x installed'. That's not likely to be trivial either is it?

Thanks,
Mike

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bernd at firmix

May 25, 2009, 5:07 AM

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Re: Upgrade very old Clamav [In reply to]

On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 06:22 -0500, M. Lewis wrote:
> I have a client who for a variety of reasons is still running Fedora
> Core 3. I know he has worse problems that Clamav being out of date with

I'm doing the same on Fedora Core 4.

> this, but I'm wondering if there is a way to get Clamav up to date on
> this system.

Find a recent clamav-*.src.rpm (from Fedora 10 or whatever) and
`rpmbuild --rebuild` it und `rpm -Uvh` it

> Previously all upgrades were done via RPM, which of course has not been
> possible for a long time.

Unless you build the few you really need updated yourself.

> If I were to remove the existing clamav (clamav-0.88.7-1) and install
> the current version from source, are the libraries and all there that
> are needed to compile the current version on this old machine? I would
> think probably they are not, but I'd like to confirm this with someone
> more knowledgable.

clamav-0.95.1 runs and works AFAICS with libs from FC4. So I would try
it on FC3 similarly.

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bernd at firmix

May 25, 2009, 5:09 AM

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Re: Upgrade very old Clamav [In reply to]

On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 13:54 +0200, aCaB wrote:
[....]
> you you have gcc 2.95 or less, then forget about compiling it. You will

FC4 has gcc-4.0.2. So FC3 should have a gcc-3.
Just do `rpm -q gcc` or `yum install gcc` and see what it has/delivers.

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edwintorok at gmail

May 25, 2009, 5:10 AM

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Re: Upgrade very old Clamav [In reply to]

On 2009-05-25 15:01, M. Lewis wrote:
> aCaB wrote:
>
>> M. Lewis wrote:
>>
>>> I have a client who for a variety of reasons is still running Fedora
>>> Core 3. I know he has worse problems that Clamav being out of date with
>>> this, but I'm wondering if there is a way to get Clamav up to date on
>>> this system.
>>>
>>> Previously all upgrades were done via RPM, which of course has not been
>>> possible for a long time.
>>>
>>> If I were to remove the existing clamav (clamav-0.88.7-1) and install
>>> the current version from source, are the libraries and all there that
>>> are needed to compile the current version on this old machine? I would
>>> think probably they are not, but I'd like to confirm this with someone
>>> more knowledgable.
>>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> you you have gcc 2.95 or less, then forget about compiling it. You will
>> get any sort of compilation errors. Working them around is not trivial BTW.
>>
>> If you can somehow get a gcc 3.x installed then you should be able to
>> compile clamav without major problems.
>> Old libraries should link ok (although most of them are probably
>> exploitable), with the exception of libmilter. If you don't need
>> clamav-milter that shouldn't really bother you.
>>
>> -acab
>>
>
> Thanks acab. That's about what I thought. I note you said 'somehow get a
> gcc 3.x installed'. That's not likely to be trivial either is it?

Fedora Core 3 should ship with gcc 3.4.2 and gcc 4.0, so installing the
gcc34 rpm should suffice.
Make sure you use gcc version 3.4.2, and NOT 4.0, as 4.0 is known to be
broken when compiling ClamAV.

Also bzip2 is likely an exploitable version, you should install 1.0.5.

Best regards,
--Edwin
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mator at team

May 25, 2009, 5:11 AM

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Re: Upgrade very old Clamav [In reply to]

On 25.05.2009 / 07:01:05 -0500, M. Lewis wrote:
> aCaB wrote:
> > M. Lewis wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > you you have gcc 2.95 or less, then forget about compiling it. You will
> > get any sort of compilation errors. Working them around is not trivial BTW.
> >
> > If you can somehow get a gcc 3.x installed then you should be able to
> > compile clamav without major problems.
> > Old libraries should link ok (although most of them are probably
> > exploitable), with the exception of libmilter. If you don't need
> > clamav-milter that shouldn't really bother you.
> >
> > -acab
>
> Thanks acab. That's about what I thought. I note you said 'somehow get a
> gcc 3.x installed'. That's not likely to be trivial either is it?

http://www.mjmwired.net/resources/mjm-fedora-gcc.html

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cajun at cajuninc

May 25, 2009, 5:18 AM

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Re: Upgrade very old Clamav [In reply to]

Bernd Petrovitsch wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 13:54 +0200, aCaB wrote:
> [....]
>> you you have gcc 2.95 or less, then forget about compiling it. You will
>
> FC4 has gcc-4.0.2. So FC3 should have a gcc-3.
> Just do `rpm -q gcc` or `yum install gcc` and see what it has/delivers.
>
> Bernd

[root [at] hos ~]# rpm -qa | grep gcc
compat-gcc-objc-8-3.3.4.2
gcc-g77-3.4.4-2.fc3
gcc4-c++-4.0.0-0.41.fc3
gcc-3.4.4-2.fc3
gcc-gnat-3.4.4-2.fc3
compat-gcc-java-8-3.3.4.2
gcc4-gfortran-4.0.0-0.41.fc3
compat-gcc-c++-8-3.3.4.2
libgcc-3.4.4-2.fc3
gcc4-4.0.0-0.41.fc3
gcc-c++-3.4.4-2.fc3
compat-gcc-8-3.3.4.2
gcc-java-3.4.4-2.fc3
gcc-objc-3.4.4-2.fc3
compat-gcc-g77-8-3.3.4.2

Thanks Bernd.

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cajun at cajuninc

May 25, 2009, 5:19 AM

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Re: Upgrade very old Clamav [In reply to]

Bernd Petrovitsch wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 06:22 -0500, M. Lewis wrote:
>> I have a client who for a variety of reasons is still running Fedora
>> Core 3. I know he has worse problems that Clamav being out of date with
>
> I'm doing the same on Fedora Core 4.
>
>> this, but I'm wondering if there is a way to get Clamav up to date on
>> this system.
>
> Find a recent clamav-*.src.rpm (from Fedora 10 or whatever) and
> `rpmbuild --rebuild` it und `rpm -Uvh` it
>

This would appear to be the easiest solution?

>> Previously all upgrades were done via RPM, which of course has not been
>> possible for a long time.
>
> Unless you build the few you really need updated yourself.
>
>> If I were to remove the existing clamav (clamav-0.88.7-1) and install
>> the current version from source, are the libraries and all there that
>> are needed to compile the current version on this old machine? I would
>> think probably they are not, but I'd like to confirm this with someone
>> more knowledgable.
>
> clamav-0.95.1 runs and works AFAICS with libs from FC4. So I would try
> it on FC3 similarly.
>
> Bernd

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cajun at cajuninc

May 25, 2009, 5:50 AM

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Re: Upgrade very old Clamav [In reply to]

Bernd Petrovitsch wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 06:22 -0500, M. Lewis wrote:
>> I have a client who for a variety of reasons is still running Fedora
>> Core 3. I know he has worse problems that Clamav being out of date with
>
> I'm doing the same on Fedora Core 4.
>
>> this, but I'm wondering if there is a way to get Clamav up to date on
>> this system.
>
> Find a recent clamav-*.src.rpm (from Fedora 10 or whatever) and
> `rpmbuild --rebuild` it und `rpm -Uvh` it
>

I downloaded clamav-0.95.1-1.fc11.src.rpm from
ftp://rpmfind.net/linux/fedora/development/source/SRPMS/clamav-0.95.1-1.fc11.src.rpm

I'm getting the following errors:

[root [at] hos ~]# rpmbuild --rebuild clamav-0.95.1-1.fc11.src.rpm
Installing clamav-0.95.1-1.fc11.src.rpm
warning: user mockbuild does not exist - using root
warning: group mockbuild does not exist - using root
error: unpacking of archive failed on file
/usr/src/redhat/SOURCES/README.fedora;4a1a91dd: cpio: MD5 sum mismatch
error: clamav-0.95.1-1.fc11.src.rpm cannot be installed

I downloaded the file a second time just to insure it was not corrupted
in the transfer. Results were the same.

I realize now I'm getting into a RedHat specific question and may need
to move this to a RedHat list.

Thanks,
Mike

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bernd at firmix

May 25, 2009, 7:57 AM

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Re: Upgrade very old Clamav [In reply to]

On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 07:19 -0500, M. Lewis wrote:
> Bernd Petrovitsch wrote:
> > On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 06:22 -0500, M. Lewis wrote:
> >> I have a client who for a variety of reasons is still running Fedora
> >> Core 3. I know he has worse problems that Clamav being out of date with
> >
> > I'm doing the same on Fedora Core 4.
> >
> >> this, but I'm wondering if there is a way to get Clamav up to date on
> >> this system.
> >
> > Find a recent clamav-*.src.rpm (from Fedora 10 or whatever) and
> > `rpmbuild --rebuild` it und `rpm -Uvh` it
>
> This would appear to be the easiest solution?

In theory, yes.
In practice, there is often more than one .src.rpm package per
application.

And now to reality;-):

On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 07:50 -0500, M. Lewis wrote:
> Bernd Petrovitsch wrote:
> > On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 06:22 -0500, M. Lewis wrote:
[...]
> > Find a recent clamav-*.src.rpm (from Fedora 10 or whatever) and
> > `rpmbuild --rebuild` it und `rpm -Uvh` it
>
> I downloaded clamav-0.95.1-1.fc11.src.rpm from
> ftp://rpmfind.net/linux/fedora/development/source/SRPMS/clamav-0.95.1-1.fc11.src.rpm
>
> I'm getting the following errors:
>
> [root [at] hos ~]# rpmbuild --rebuild clamav-0.95.1-1.fc11.src.rpm
> Installing clamav-0.95.1-1.fc11.src.rpm
> warning: user mockbuild does not exist - using root
> warning: group mockbuild does not exist - using root

These are harmless - just ignore.

> error: unpacking of archive failed on file
> /usr/src/redhat/SOURCES/README.fedora;4a1a91dd: cpio: MD5 sum mismatch
> error: clamav-0.95.1-1.fc11.src.rpm cannot be installed
>
> I downloaded the file a second time just to insure it was not corrupted
> in the transfer. Results were the same.

Yes, saw these on other packages from F11 and I hadn't time to figure
out how to circumvent that (which is the main reason for using F10
packages ....).

http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/epel/5/SRPMS/clamav-0.95.1-1.el5.src.rpm (from the EPEL repository - Fedora packages ported to RHEL/CentOS) should work with "old" rpm binaries.

> I realize now I'm getting into a RedHat specific question and may need
> to move this to a RedHat list.

Yes, that's a Fedora issue.

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martinnitram at excite

May 26, 2009, 1:33 AM

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Re: Upgrade very old Clamav [In reply to]

Just wonder, if use EPEL repository src rpm, why don't use the binary rpm
from repo directly?
BTW, some of servers of our clients also running FC3, which using the
source tar from clamav.net, seem work so far so good.

Bernd Petrovitsch wrote:
>
> On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 07:50 -0500, M. Lewis wrote:
>> Bernd Petrovitsch wrote:
>> > On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 06:22 -0500, M. Lewis wrote:
>> > Find a recent clamav-*.src.rpm (from Fedora 10 or whatever) and
>> > `rpmbuild --rebuild` it und `rpm -Uvh` it
>>
>> I downloaded clamav-0.95.1-1.fc11.src.rpm from
>> ftp://rpmfind.net/linux/fedora/development/source/SRPMS/clamav-0.95.1-1.fc11.src.rpm
>>
>> I'm getting the following errors:
>>
>> [root [at] hos ~]# rpmbuild --rebuild clamav-0.95.1-1.fc11.src.rpm
>> Installing clamav-0.95.1-1.fc11.src.rpm
>> warning: user mockbuild does not exist - using root
>> warning: group mockbuild does not exist - using root
>
> These are harmless - just ignore.
>
>> error: unpacking of archive failed on file
>> /usr/src/redhat/SOURCES/README.fedora;4a1a91dd: cpio: MD5 sum mismatch
>> error: clamav-0.95.1-1.fc11.src.rpm cannot be installed
>>
>> I downloaded the file a second time just to insure it was not corrupted
>> in the transfer. Results were the same.
>
> Yes, saw these on other packages from F11 and I hadn't time to figure
> out how to circumvent that (which is the main reason for using F10
> packages ....).
>
> http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/epel/5/SRPMS/clamav-0.95.1-1.el5.src.rpm
> (from the EPEL repository - Fedora packages ported to RHEL/CentOS) should
> work with "old" rpm binaries.
>
>> I realize now I'm getting into a RedHat specific question and may need
>> to move this to a RedHat list.
>
> Yes, that's a Fedora issue.
>
> Bernd
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martinnitram at excite

May 26, 2009, 1:33 AM

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Re: Upgrade very old Clamav [In reply to]

Just wonder, if use EPEL repository src rpm, why don't use the binary rpm
from repo directly?

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL/FAQ#How_can_I_install_the_packages_from_the_EPEL_software_repository.3F

BTW, some of servers of our clients also running FC3, which using the
source tar from clamav.net, seem work so far so good.

Bernd Petrovitsch wrote:
>
> On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 07:50 -0500, M. Lewis wrote:
>> Bernd Petrovitsch wrote:
>> > On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 06:22 -0500, M. Lewis wrote:
>> > Find a recent clamav-*.src.rpm (from Fedora 10 or whatever) and
>> > `rpmbuild --rebuild` it und `rpm -Uvh` it
>>
>> I downloaded clamav-0.95.1-1.fc11.src.rpm from
>> ftp://rpmfind.net/linux/fedora/development/source/SRPMS/clamav-0.95.1-1.fc11.src.rpm
>>
>> I'm getting the following errors:
>>
>> [root [at] hos ~]# rpmbuild --rebuild clamav-0.95.1-1.fc11.src.rpm
>> Installing clamav-0.95.1-1.fc11.src.rpm
>> warning: user mockbuild does not exist - using root
>> warning: group mockbuild does not exist - using root
>
> These are harmless - just ignore.
>
>> error: unpacking of archive failed on file
>> /usr/src/redhat/SOURCES/README.fedora;4a1a91dd: cpio: MD5 sum mismatch
>> error: clamav-0.95.1-1.fc11.src.rpm cannot be installed
>>
>> I downloaded the file a second time just to insure it was not corrupted
>> in the transfer. Results were the same.
>
> Yes, saw these on other packages from F11 and I hadn't time to figure
> out how to circumvent that (which is the main reason for using F10
> packages ....).
>
> http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/epel/5/SRPMS/clamav-0.95.1-1.el5.src.rpm
> (from the EPEL repository - Fedora packages ported to RHEL/CentOS) should
> work with "old" rpm binaries.
>
>> I realize now I'm getting into a RedHat specific question and may need
>> to move this to a RedHat list.
>
> Yes, that's a Fedora issue.
>
> Bernd
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bernd at firmix

May 26, 2009, 2:47 AM

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Re: Upgrade very old Clamav [In reply to]

On Tue, 2009-05-26 at 01:33 -0700, martinnitram wrote:
[...]
> Just wonder, if use EPEL repository src rpm, why don't use the binary rpm
> from repo directly?

Never tried that recently.
If I have to guess: missing dependencies, need for newer packages, some
packages may have been renamed and proper "obsoletes" are missing, ...
Yes, all that is a packaging/distribution issue (and not an
application/ClamAV issue).

BTW I tried to rebuild
http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/epel/5/SRPMS/clamav-0.95.1-1.el5.src.rpm on FC4 and it wants a "fedora-usermgmt-devel" package (which doesn't exists there).
Commenting out the 2 lines in the .spec file makes the package build.
No, I didn't try to run it. Waiting for 0.95.2 to have a reason for an
update.

> BTW, some of servers of our clients also running FC3, which using the
> source tar from clamav.net, seem work so far so good.

We run it (also) on RHEL3 (and didn't notice any problems). No, I don't
remember on which RedHat/Fedora that was based.

RHEL/CentOS3 needs a few more simple tweaks - bintulis are far older
there.

[ Fullquote deleted ]

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bernd at firmix

Jul 22, 2009, 5:35 AM

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On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 16:57 +0200, Bernd Petrovitsch wrote:
[...]
> Yes, saw these on other packages from F11 and I hadn't time to figure
> out how to circumvent that (which is the main reason for using F10

FWIW, it's here
http://www.devheads.net/linux/fedora/development/fedora-11-epel-5-md5-issue.htm
explained and there some kind of solution there.

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