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Jul 18, 2008, 6:14 AM
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Re: OT: Any one using Adtran at the access Layer?
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No, two weeks... better than tossing it in a dumpster...
Jonathan
On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 7:06 AM, Tim Smith <thsglobal[at]gmail.com> wrote:
> Yep.. but they will announce an effective end of support where they wont
> replace it any more...
>
> And did you get a replacement next business day? :)
>
> Cheers,
>
> Tim
>
>
> On 7/18/08, Jonathan Charles <jonvoip[at]gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I bought a 3550 for the house in 2003, it blew up six months ago...
>> Cisco replaced it, no smartnet, just warranty... dunno if they have
>> lifetime on the 4/6xxx's
>>
>>
>>
>> Jonathan
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 4:09 AM, Tim Smith <thsglobal[at]gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Has the warranty changed recently? It used to be Limited Lifetime
>> > warranty -
>> > usually 10 days before they ship a replacement (For the access switches)
>> > And I think they were giving you 90 days on a anything above a 4500?
>> >
>> > Sure you can buy smartnet... but its not cheap.
>> >
>> > Dont get me wrong.. I love Cisco stuff, and if it was up to me, I
>> > wouldnt
>> > have worked on anything else... but some places just dont have the cash.
>> > For
>> > a cheap alternative someone like HP Procurve is a good option. Sure they
>> > dont have as many features as Cisco... but they usually have the most
>> > important ones that you actually turn on and need :)
>> >
>> > They had true lifetime warranty on the access switches.. lifetime of the
>> > product (until it physically disappears or disintegrates) and they
>> > normally
>> > ship parts next business day. I had a really old ethertwist hub at
>> > home.. it
>> > failed.. i logged it.. they replaced it with a new model switch. (I will
>> > say
>> > I did want the ethertwist switch fixed.. it was a classic.. but cant
>> > fault
>> > their service there)
>> >
>> > And the price was very reasonable from the start. They also have
>> > reasonably
>> > priced management software that wasnt too shabby either.
>> >
>> > And I believe they are also running on the international space station
>> > now..
>> > so that should be a fairly good reference site :)
>> >
>> > Next interesting thing would be the LLDP-MED and Cisco Phones... if they
>> > could autoconfigure.. it would be fairly sweet.
>> >
>> > Like I said.. love the Cisco... but there is always room for some
>> > healthy
>> > competition I guess.
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> >
>> > Tim.
>> >
>> > On 7/17/08, Jonathan Charles <jonvoip[at]gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Well, first off, all Cisco switches have a lifetime warranty... yes,
>> >> they are expensive... yes, there are bugs, but the bugs have a
>> >> tendency to get fixed...
>> >>
>> >> I have experience with Adtran, and after supporting the TA612 and 624
>> >> et al for a year or so, I can tell you, they should stick to CSUs and
>> >> buggy whips... maybe PSTN and WAN simulators...
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Jonathan
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 3:07 PM, Scott Voll <svoll.voip[at]gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > Going to work?..... How many bugs have I personally found? I don't
>> >> > know
>> >> > if
>> >> > I would go quite that far.
>> >> >
>> >> > Adtran is about 1/3 of the cost / no Smartnet contracts / Free
>> >> > Firmware
>> >> > updates / 5 year warrenty, soon to be lifetime and all there support
>> >> > engineers are both certified on Cisco and Adtran.
>> >> >
>> >> > Thay do a lot of (so I'm told) interop with other venders (cisco).
>> >> >
>> >> > My main double take of it was for my school districts that are short
>> >> > on
>> >> > $$$
>> >> > but still wanting to do VoIP.
>> >> >
>> >> > Scott
>> >> >
>> >> > On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 1:02 PM, Jonathan Charles <jonvoip[at]gmail.com>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Also, let's add up what you get with Cisco.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Support.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> More Support.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Lots more Support.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Oh, yeah, and no questions about whether it is going to work or not.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Jonathan
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 2:59 PM, Joe Cisco <smetsysocsic[at]gmail.com>
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> > The only non-cisco switches i've ever seen successfully work with
>> >> >> > Cisco phones were made by Enterasys. We have a client using
>> >> >> > exclusively Enterasys switches across their entire enterprise -
>> >> >> > access
>> >> >> > / core - everything. When properly configured they successfully
>> >> >> > negotiate CDP with the phones and split the voice traffic into the
>> >> >> > voice vlan and PC/data traffic into the data vlan if a PC is
>> >> >> > plugged
>> >> >> > into the back of the phone.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > They were about 1/2 the price of equivalent cisco gear. Having
>> >> >> > said
>> >> >> > that, i'd still personally pony up the extra cash for the cisco
>> >> >> > gear
>> >> >> > if it were up to me.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > -Joe C.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 2:33 PM, Scott Voll <svoll.voip[at]gmail.com>
>> >> >> > wrote:
>> >> >> >> Had a Adtran rep come by today and told us all about Adtran
>> >> >> >> switches
>> >> >> >> /
>> >> >> >> routers / appliances / etc and the switches sound good, but I was
>> >> >> >> wondering
>> >> >> >> if anyone on the list was using them in production with a Cisco
>> >> >> >> CM /
>> >> >> >> network. All responses welcome.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Scott
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