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lelio at uoguelph

Feb 5, 2008, 6:53 AM

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7940s and 60s - no EOL just yet

There have been a couple of comments on the list re: 7940s and 60s and EOL.

According to this: http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/phones/ps379/prod_eol_notices_list.html they have not been EOL'ed just yet.

That being said, I'm not sure anyone would want to go out with a new deployment using them, but they are still supported.

I'm pretty sure the second/third gen phones are the way to go.
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Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
“Life expectancy would grow by leaps and bounds if green vegetables smelled as good as bacon.”
Doug Larson


SCASPER at mtb

Feb 6, 2008, 3:51 PM

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Re: 7940s and 60s - no EOL just yet [In reply to]

Any comments on 3rd gen phones, is anyone using them instead of 2 gen?

>>> "Lelio Fulgenzi" <lelio [at] uoguelph> 2/5/2008 9:53 AM >>>
There have been a couple of comments on the list re: 7940s and 60s and
EOL.

According to this:
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/phones/ps379/prod_eol_notices_list.html
they have not been EOL'ed just yet.

That being said, I'm not sure anyone would want to go out with a new
deployment using them, but they are still supported.

I'm pretty sure the second/third gen phones are the way to go.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

“Life expectancy would grow by leaps and bounds if green vegetables
smelled as good as bacon.”
Doug Larson



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jason.aarons at us

Feb 6, 2008, 6:09 PM

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Re: 7940s and 60s - no EOL just yet [In reply to]

I was told no new features can be developed on 2nd generation due to limitation, so buy 3rd generation.



I like the 3rd generation myself, and haven’t touched a fourth generation phone yet, but iLBC codec holds great promise for bad wan links.



1st Generation VIP12/VIP30 (white phones, only did G711)

2nd Generation CP7940/7960/7935/7970/7920

3rd Generation CP7941/7961/7985/7936/7921

4th Generation CP7975/7965/7945/7962/7942 (Headset Hook Control, iLBC Codec support)



From: cisco-voip-bounces [at] puck [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces [at] puck] On Behalf Of STEVEN CASPER
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 6:51 PM
To: cisco-voip [at] puck; Lelio Fulgenzi
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] 7940s and 60s - no EOL just yet



Any comments on 3rd gen phones, is anyone using them instead of 2 gen?

>>> "Lelio Fulgenzi" <lelio [at] uoguelph> 2/5/2008 9:53 AM >>>

There have been a couple of comments on the list re: 7940s and 60s and EOL.



According to this: http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/phones/ps379/prod_eol_notices_list.html they have not been EOL'ed just yet.



That being said, I'm not sure anyone would want to go out with a new deployment using them, but they are still supported.



I'm pretty sure the second/third gen phones are the way to go.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
“Life expectancy would grow by leaps and bounds if green vegetables smelled as good as bacon.”
Doug Larson





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SCASPER at mtb

Feb 6, 2008, 6:42 PM

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Re: 7940s and 60s - no EOL just yet [In reply to]

I was thinking that the 7942/7962 phones were the 3rd generation phones
so thanks for the info. I wonder if the 7941/7961 phones could use the
iBLC codec via a firmware upgrade at some point.

>>> "Jason Aarons (US)" <jason.aarons [at] us> 2/6/2008 9:09 PM
>>>

I was told no new features can be developed on 2nd generation due to
limitation, so buy 3rd generation.

I like the 3rd generation myself, and haven’t touched a fourth
generation phone yet, but iLBC codec holds great promise for bad wan
links.

1st Generation VIP12/VIP30 (white phones, only did G711)
2nd Generation CP7940/7960/7935/7970/7920
3rd Generation CP7941/7961/7985/7936/7921
4th Generation CP7975/7965/7945/7962/7942 (Headset Hook Control, iLBC
Codec support)


From:cisco-voip-bounces [at] puck
[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces [at] puck] On Behalf Of STEVEN
CASPER
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 6:51 PM
To: cisco-voip [at] puck; Lelio Fulgenzi
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] 7940s and 60s - no EOL just yet


Any comments on 3rd gen phones, is anyone using them instead of 2 gen?

>>> "Lelio Fulgenzi" <lelio [at] uoguelph> 2/5/2008 9:53 AM >>>

There have been a couple of comments on the list re: 7940s and 60s and
EOL.



According to this:
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/phones/ps379/prod_eol_notices_list.html
they have not been EOL'ed just yet.



That being said, I'm not sure anyone would want to go out with a new
deployment using them, but they are still supported.



I'm pretty sure the second/third gen phones are the way to go.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

“Life expectancy would grow by leaps and bounds if green vegetables
smelled as good as bacon.”
Doug Larson





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lelio at uoguelph

Feb 6, 2008, 6:54 PM

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Re: 7940s and 60s - no EOL just yet [In reply to]

In all my conversations, the 7940s were considered 1st gen phones and then go up from there.

I really don't think anyone refers to the original selsius phones as 1st gen.
----- Original Message -----
From: Jason Aarons (US)
To: STEVEN CASPER ; cisco-voip [at] puck ; Lelio Fulgenzi
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 9:09 PM
Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] 7940s and 60s - no EOL just yet


I was told no new features can be developed on 2nd generation due to limitation, so buy 3rd generation.



I like the 3rd generation myself, and haven’t touched a fourth generation phone yet, but iLBC codec holds great promise for bad wan links.



1st Generation VIP12/VIP30 (white phones, only did G711)

2nd Generation CP7940/7960/7935/7970/7920

3rd Generation CP7941/7961/7985/7936/7921

4th Generation CP7975/7965/7945/7962/7942 (Headset Hook Control, iLBC Codec support)



From: cisco-voip-bounces [at] puck [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces [at] puck] On Behalf Of STEVEN CASPER
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 6:51 PM
To: cisco-voip [at] puck; Lelio Fulgenzi
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] 7940s and 60s - no EOL just yet



Any comments on 3rd gen phones, is anyone using them instead of 2 gen?

>>> "Lelio Fulgenzi" <lelio [at] uoguelph> 2/5/2008 9:53 AM >>>

There have been a couple of comments on the list re: 7940s and 60s and EOL.



According to this: http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/phones/ps379/prod_eol_notices_list.html they have not been EOL'ed just yet.



That being said, I'm not sure anyone would want to go out with a new deployment using them, but they are still supported.



I'm pretty sure the second/third gen phones are the way to go.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
“Life expectancy would grow by leaps and bounds if green vegetables smelled as good as bacon.”
Doug Larson





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svoll.voip at gmail

Feb 7, 2008, 7:41 AM

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Re: 7940s and 60s - no EOL just yet [In reply to]

I have a 7965 coming.... deliever date is beginning of next week. I also
got a Jabra HHC head set..... so will let everyone know how that turns out.

Scott

On Feb 6, 2008 3:51 PM, STEVEN CASPER <SCASPER [at] mtb> wrote:

> Any comments on 3rd gen phones, is anyone using them instead of 2 gen?
>
> >>> "Lelio Fulgenzi" <lelio [at] uoguelph> 2/5/2008 9:53 AM >>>
>
> There have been a couple of comments on the list re: 7940s and 60s and
> EOL.
>
> According to this:
> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/phones/ps379/prod_eol_notices_list.html they
> have not been EOL'ed just yet.
>
> That being said, I'm not sure anyone would want to go out with a new
> deployment using them, but they are still supported.
>
> I'm pretty sure the second/third gen phones are the way to go.
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
> Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
> (519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> "Life expectancy would grow by leaps and bounds if green vegetables
> smelled as good as bacon."
> Doug Larson
>
>
>
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ealeatherman at gmail

Feb 7, 2008, 8:19 AM

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Re: 7940s and 60s - no EOL just yet [In reply to]

Which model is the 3rd gen replacement for the 7970? I kinda assumed it was
more akin to the 3rd gen 7961 etc since its running the java software etc
and supports wideband.

On Feb 6, 2008 9:09 PM, Jason Aarons (US) <jason.aarons [at] us>
wrote:

> I was told no new features can be developed on 2nd generation due to
> limitation, so buy 3rd generation.
>
>
>
> I like the 3rd generation myself, and haven't touched a fourth generation
> phone yet, but iLBC codec holds great promise for bad wan links.
>
>
>
> 1st Generation VIP12/VIP30 (white phones, only did G711)
>
> 2nd Generation CP7940/7960/7935/7970/7920
>
> 3rd Generation CP7941/7961/7985/7936/7921
>
> 4th Generation CP7975/7965/7945/7962/7942 (Headset Hook Control, iLBC
> Codec support)
>
>
>

--
Ed Leatherman
Senior Voice Engineer
West Virginia University
Telecommunications and Network Operations


svoll.voip at gmail

Feb 7, 2008, 8:24 AM

Post #8 of 9 (450 views)
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Re: 7940s and 60s - no EOL just yet [In reply to]

interesting question......

I see it like this

7941 --> 7942
7961 --> 7962
7970 or 71 --> 7975

but the new ones that are kind of a mix breed are the 7945,7965 as they are
color screens but a cousin to the 7941 / 61.

So the question is.... do you want buttons / color / both?

Scott

On Feb 7, 2008 8:19 AM, Ed Leatherman <ealeatherman [at] gmail> wrote:

> Which model is the 3rd gen replacement for the 7970? I kinda assumed it
> was more akin to the 3rd gen 7961 etc since its running the java software
> etc and supports wideband.
>
>
> On Feb 6, 2008 9:09 PM, Jason Aarons (US) <jason.aarons [at] us>
> wrote:
>
> > I was told no new features can be developed on 2nd generation due to
> > limitation, so buy 3rd generation.
> >
> >
> >
> > I like the 3rd generation myself, and haven't touched a fourth
> > generation phone yet, but iLBC codec holds great promise for bad wan links.
> >
> >
> >
> > 1st Generation VIP12/VIP30 (white phones, only did G711)
> >
> > 2nd Generation CP7940/7960/7935/7970/7920
> >
> > 3rd Generation CP7941/7961/7985/7936/7921
> >
> > 4th Generation CP7975/7965/7945/7962/7942 (Headset Hook Control, iLBC
> > Codec support)
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> Ed Leatherman
> Senior Voice Engineer
> West Virginia University
> Telecommunications and Network Operations
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>
>


rratliff at cisco

Feb 7, 2008, 8:38 AM

Post #9 of 9 (445 views)
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Re: 7940s and 60s - no EOL just yet [In reply to]

The 7970 was actually the first 3rd gen phone released. The 7971
introduced the gig switch ports at the least, maybe a few other things.

-Ryan

On Feb 7, 2008, at 11:19 AM, Ed Leatherman wrote:

Which model is the 3rd gen replacement for the 7970? I kinda assumed
it was more akin to the 3rd gen 7961 etc since its running the java
software etc and supports wideband.

On Feb 6, 2008 9:09 PM, Jason Aarons (US)
<jason.aarons [at] us> wrote:
I was told no new features can be developed on 2nd generation due to
limitation, so buy 3rd generation.


I like the 3rd generation myself, and haven't touched a fourth
generation phone yet, but iLBC codec holds great promise for bad wan
links.


1st Generation VIP12/VIP30 (white phones, only did G711)

2nd Generation CP7940/7960/7935/7970/7920

3rd Generation CP7941/7961/7985/7936/7921

4th Generation CP7975/7965/7945/7962/7942 (Headset Hook Control, iLBC
Codec support)



--
Ed Leatherman
Senior Voice Engineer
West Virginia University
Telecommunications and Network Operations
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