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tednugent69 at yahoo

Aug 28, 2007, 2:47 PM

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New Winner-Worst Cisco Documentation Award!!!

Well folks it’s been a long time coming but I think we
have a new winner in the WORST CISCO DOCUMENTATION
award. I actually wasn’t sure it was possible but the
entire Mobility Manager 1.2 documentation set sucks so
bad that its beaten out Personal Assistant 1.3 which
has held the title for almost 3 yrs now!! A special
congratulation and kiss my ass goes out to the lazy
losers that wrote crap!

Sorry for the rant, Cisco Docs usually aren't too bad
but the 2nd graders that wrote this one have out done
themselves!




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ErasmuE4 at telkom

Aug 29, 2007, 2:15 AM

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Re: New Winner-Worst Cisco Documentation Award!!! [In reply to]

Did you consider the unity docs scattered all over the show - any
person making first contact with Unity will probably also feel quite
lost


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Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 11:47 PM
To: cisco-voip [at] puck
Subject: [cisco-voip] New Winner-Worst Cisco Documentation Award!!!

Well folks it's been a long time coming but I think we
have a new winner in the WORST CISCO DOCUMENTATION
award. I actually wasn't sure it was possible but the
entire Mobility Manager 1.2 documentation set sucks so
bad that its beaten out Personal Assistant 1.3 which
has held the title for almost 3 yrs now!! A special
congratulation and kiss my ass goes out to the lazy
losers that wrote crap!

Sorry for the rant, Cisco Docs usually aren't too bad
but the 2nd graders that wrote this one have out done
themselves!




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tednugent69 at yahoo

Aug 29, 2007, 6:47 AM

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Re: New Winner-Worst Cisco Documentation Award!!! [In reply to]

Ahh yes however once you finally do track down the
Unity Doc you need its typically pretty good.

For instance they wouldn't call a DN (Distinguished
Name) a Directory Number like they do in the CMM
docs..




--- "Erik Erasmus (E)" <ErasmuE4 [at] telkom> wrote:

>
> Did you consider the unity docs scattered all over
> the show - any
> person making first contact with Unity will probably
> also feel quite
> lost
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cisco-voip-bounces [at] puck
> [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces [at] puck] On
> Behalf Of Ted Nugent
> Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 11:47 PM
> To: cisco-voip [at] puck
> Subject: [cisco-voip] New Winner-Worst Cisco
> Documentation Award!!!
>
> Well folks it's been a long time coming but I think
> we
> have a new winner in the WORST CISCO DOCUMENTATION
> award. I actually wasn't sure it was possible but
> the
> entire Mobility Manager 1.2 documentation set sucks
> so
> bad that its beaten out Personal Assistant 1.3 which
> has held the title for almost 3 yrs now!! A special
> congratulation and kiss my ass goes out to the lazy
> losers that wrote crap!
>
> Sorry for the rant, Cisco Docs usually aren't too
> bad
> but the 2nd graders that wrote this one have out
> done
> themselves!
>
>
>
>
>
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bob at smalltime

Aug 29, 2007, 7:47 AM

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Re: New Winner-Worst Cisco Documentation Award!!! [In reply to]

Ted Nugent wrote:
> Ahh yes however once you finally do track down the
> Unity Doc you need its typically pretty good.
>
> For instance they wouldn't call a DN (Distinguished
> Name) a Directory Number like they do in the CMM
> docs..

You are in a twisty maze of passageways, all alike...
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cbomba at s4nets

Aug 30, 2007, 6:10 AM

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Re: New Winner-Worst Cisco Documentation Award!!! [In reply to]

I had to install Mobility Manager last year when it was still pretty new and when I called TAC the engineer asked me to send him the document because they sent me to a TAC engineer that hadn't even seen CMM yet. After working with the guy for a full day they finally escalated to someone that knew what they were talking about and I got it working. The documentation was Poo back then and haven't dealt with it since, but I guess people didn't complain enough to have them go back and rework the docs. I was glad to get that behind me.

Can't wait to see what we have to do to get that functionality working in CUCM 6.0. It is built into the software now, no need for separate server.

Chris


Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 09:47:22 -0500
From: Robert Kulagowski <bob [at] smalltime>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] New Winner-Worst Cisco Documentation
Award!!!
To: cisco-voip [at] puck
Message-ID: <46D586FA.8070604 [at] smalltime>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Ted Nugent wrote:
> Ahh yes however once you finally do track down the
> Unity Doc you need its typically pretty good.
>
> For instance they wouldn't call a DN (Distinguished
> Name) a Directory Number like they do in the CMM
> docs..

You are in a twisty maze of passageways, all alike...



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wsisk at cisco

Aug 30, 2007, 11:38 AM

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Re: New Winner-Worst Cisco Documentation Award!!! [In reply to]

CM6, mobility manager is included natively. /Wes

Christopher M. Bomba wrote:
I had to install Mobility Manager last year when it was still pretty new and when I called TAC the engineer asked me to send him the document because they sent me to a TAC engineer that hadn't even seen CMM yet. After working with the guy for a full day they finally escalated to someone that knew what they were talking about and I got it working. The documentation was Poo back then and haven't dealt with it since, but I guess people didn't complain enough to have them go back and rework the docs. I was glad to get that behind me. Can't wait to see what we have to do to get that functionality working in CUCM 6.0. It is built into the software now, no need for separate server. Chris Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 09:47:22 -0500 From: Robert Kulagowski <bob [at] smalltime> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] New Winner-Worst Cisco Documentation Award!!! To: cisco-voip [at] puck Message-ID: <46D586FA.8070604 [at] smalltime> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Ted Nugent wrote:
Ahh yes however once you finally do track down the Unity Doc you need its typically pretty good. For instance they wouldn't call a DN (Distinguished Name) a Directory Number like they do in the CMM docs..
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craig at staffin

Aug 30, 2007, 12:13 PM

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Re: New Winner-Worst Cisco Documentation Award!!! [In reply to]

now the real question has anyone actually gotten the mobility features to
work correctly??

On 8/30/07, Wes Sisk <wsisk [at] cisco> wrote:
>
> CM6, mobility manager is included natively. /Wes
>
> Christopher M. Bomba wrote:
>
> I had to install Mobility Manager last year when it was still pretty new and when I called TAC the engineer asked me to send him the document because they sent me to a TAC engineer that hadn't even seen CMM yet. After working with the guy for a full day they finally escalated to someone that knew what they were talking about and I got it working. The documentation was Poo back then and haven't dealt with it since, but I guess people didn't complain enough to have them go back and rework the docs. I was glad to get that behind me.
>
> Can't wait to see what we have to do to get that functionality working in CUCM 6.0. It is built into the software now, no need for separate server.
>
> Chris
>
>
> Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 09:47:22 -0500
> From: Robert Kulagowski <bob [at] smalltime> <bob [at] smalltime>
> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] New Winner-Worst Cisco Documentation
> Award!!!
> To: cisco-voip [at] puck
> Message-ID: <46D586FA.8070604 [at] smalltime> <46D586FA.8070604 [at] smalltime>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Ted Nugent wrote:
>
>
> Ahh yes however once you finally do track down the
> Unity Doc you need its typically pretty good.
>
> For instance they wouldn't call a DN (Distinguished
> Name) a Directory Number like they do in the CMM
> docs..
>
> You are in a twisty maze of passageways, all alike...
>
>
>
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jason.aarons at us

Aug 30, 2007, 12:34 PM

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Re: New Winner-Worst Cisco Documentation Award!!! [In reply to]

Yes, works fine. It's more the 1 call in, 4 calls out that uses PRI
resources. Need to plan Erlang type stats carefully..



It would be better if the CMMUser was more simple like Vonage simulcast
website, etc.



From: cisco-voip-bounces [at] puck
[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces [at] puck] On Behalf Of Craig Staffin
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 3:13 PM
To: Wes Sisk
Cc: cbomba [at] s4nets; cisco-voip [at] puck
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] New Winner-Worst Cisco Documentation Award!!!



now the real question has anyone actually gotten the mobility features
to work correctly??

On 8/30/07, Wes Sisk <wsisk [at] cisco > wrote:

CM6, mobility manager is included natively. /Wes

Christopher M. Bomba wrote:

I had to install Mobility Manager last year when it was still pretty new
and when I called TAC the engineer asked me to send him the document
because they sent me to a TAC engineer that hadn't even seen CMM yet.
After working with the guy for a full day they finally escalated to
someone that knew what they were talking about and I got it working.
The documentation was Poo back then and haven't dealt with it since, but
I guess people didn't complain enough to have them go back and rework
the docs. I was glad to get that behind me.




Can't wait to see what we have to do to get that functionality working
in CUCM 6.0. It is built into the software now, no need for separate
server.



Chris





Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 09:47:22 -0500


From: Robert Kulagowski <bob [at] smalltime> <mailto:bob [at] smalltime>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] New Winner-Worst Cisco Documentation
Award!!!
To: cisco-voip [at] puck
Message-ID: <46D586FA.8070604 [at] smalltime>
<mailto:46D586FA.8070604 [at] smalltime>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Ted Nugent wrote:


Ahh yes however once you finally do track down the

Unity Doc you need its typically pretty good.



For instance they wouldn't call a DN (Distinguished

Name) a Directory Number like they do in the CMM


docs..



You are in a twisty maze of passageways, all alike...







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cbomba at s4nets

Aug 30, 2007, 12:43 PM

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Re: New Winner-Worst Cisco Documentation Award!!! [In reply to]

Yes, I had it working when I left, I could call the office phone, which in turn rang my cell phone. I could answer my cell phone walk up to my desk, hang up with the caller and pick the call up on my office phone. Works, but I just don't see having someone spend money for a MCS server and software for that functionality. I am glad it is integrated with CUCM 6.0.

Chris


-----Original Message-----
From: "Jason Aarons \(US\)" <jason.aarons [at] us>
Sent: Thu, August 30, 2007 3:34 pm
To: Craig Staffin <craig [at] staffin>, Wes Sisk <wsisk [at] cisco>
Cc: cbomba [at] s4nets, cisco-voip [at] puck
Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] New Winner-Worst Cisco Documentation Award!!!

Yes, works fine. It's more the 1 call in, 4 calls out that uses PRI
resources. Need to plan Erlang type stats carefully..



It would be better if the CMMUser was more simple like Vonage simulcast
website, etc.



From: cisco-voip-bounces [at] puck
[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces [at] puck] On Behalf Of Craig Staffin
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 3:13 PM
To: Wes Sisk
Cc: cbomba [at] s4nets; cisco-voip [at] puck
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] New Winner-Worst Cisco Documentation Award!!!



now the real question has anyone actually gotten the mobility features
to work correctly??

On 8/30/07, Wes Sisk <wsisk [at] cisco > wrote:

CM6, mobility manager is included natively. /Wes

Christopher M. Bomba wrote:

I had to install Mobility Manager last year when it was still pretty new
and when I called TAC the engineer asked me to send him the document
because they sent me to a TAC engineer that hadn't even seen CMM yet.
After working with the guy for a full day they finally escalated to
someone that knew what they were talking about and I got it working.
The documentation was Poo back then and haven't dealt with it since, but
I guess people didn't complain enough to have them go back and rework
the docs. I was glad to get that behind me.




Can't wait to see what we have to do to get that functionality working
in CUCM 6.0. It is built into the software now, no need for separate
server.



Chris





Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 09:47:22 -0500


From: Robert Kulagowski <bob [at] smalltime> <mailto:bob [at] smalltime>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] New Winner-Worst Cisco Documentation
Award!!!
To: cisco-voip [at] puck
Message-ID: <46D586FA.8070604 [at] smalltime>
<mailto:46D586FA.8070604 [at] smalltime>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Ted Nugent wrote:


Ahh yes however once you finally do track down the

Unity Doc you need its typically pretty good.



For instance they wouldn't call a DN (Distinguished

Name) a Directory Number like they do in the CMM


docs..



You are in a twisty maze of passageways, all alike...







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tednugent69 at yahoo

Aug 30, 2007, 4:56 PM

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Re: New Winner-Worst Cisco Documentation Award!!! [In reply to]

Does anyone have CMM working on CM5.1 with the CM LDAP
pointing to AD? I've got to set this up in a couple
weeks and I'm having a hard time finding anything
about where to point CMM. I can only guess with the
current docs that the directory config is ignored in
CM5.x and I don't really need to worry about it
providing AXL is working between CMM and CCM? Sound
about right?



--- "Christopher M. Bomba" <cbomba [at] s4nets> wrote:

> Yes, I had it working when I left, I could call the
> office phone, which in turn rang my cell phone. I
> could answer my cell phone walk up to my desk, hang
> up with the caller and pick the call up on my office
> phone. Works, but I just don't see having someone
> spend money for a MCS server and software for that
> functionality. I am glad it is integrated with CUCM
> 6.0.
>
> Chris
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Jason Aarons \(US\)"
> <jason.aarons [at] us>
> Sent: Thu, August 30, 2007 3:34 pm
> To: Craig Staffin <craig [at] staffin>, Wes Sisk
> <wsisk [at] cisco>
> Cc: cbomba [at] s4nets, cisco-voip [at] puck
> Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] New Winner-Worst Cisco
> Documentation Award!!!
>
> Yes, works fine. It's more the 1 call in, 4 calls
> out that uses PRI
> resources. Need to plan Erlang type stats
> carefully..
>
>
>
> It would be better if the CMMUser was more simple
> like Vonage simulcast
> website, etc.
>
>
>
> From: cisco-voip-bounces [at] puck
> [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces [at] puck] On
> Behalf Of Craig Staffin
> Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 3:13 PM
> To: Wes Sisk
> Cc: cbomba [at] s4nets; cisco-voip [at] puck
> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] New Winner-Worst Cisco
> Documentation Award!!!
>
>
>
> now the real question has anyone actually gotten the
> mobility features
> to work correctly??
>
> On 8/30/07, Wes Sisk <wsisk [at] cisco > wrote:
>
> CM6, mobility manager is included natively. /Wes
>
> Christopher M. Bomba wrote:
>
> I had to install Mobility Manager last year when it
> was still pretty new
> and when I called TAC the engineer asked me to send
> him the document
> because they sent me to a TAC engineer that hadn't
> even seen CMM yet.
> After working with the guy for a full day they
> finally escalated to
> someone that knew what they were talking about and I
> got it working.
> The documentation was Poo back then and haven't
> dealt with it since, but
> I guess people didn't complain enough to have them
> go back and rework
> the docs. I was glad to get that behind me.
>
>
>
>
> Can't wait to see what we have to do to get that
> functionality working
> in CUCM 6.0. It is built into the software now, no
> need for separate
> server.
>
>
>
> Chris
>
>
>
>
>
> Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 09:47:22 -0500
>
>
> From: Robert Kulagowski <bob [at] smalltime>
> <mailto:bob [at] smalltime>
> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] New Winner-Worst Cisco
> Documentation
> Award!!!
> To: cisco-voip [at] puck
> Message-ID: <46D586FA.8070604 [at] smalltime>
> <mailto:46D586FA.8070604 [at] smalltime>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1;
> format=flowed
>
> Ted Nugent wrote:
>
>
> Ahh yes however once you finally do track down the
>
> Unity Doc you need its typically pretty good.
>
>
>
> For instance they wouldn't call a DN (Distinguished
>
> Name) a Directory Number like they do in the CMM
>
>
> docs..
>
>
>
> You are in a twisty maze of passageways, all
> alike...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
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>
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>
>
>
>
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>
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