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rade239 at gmail

Nov 24, 2009, 12:33 PM

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Ordering Unity

Hi, quick intervention... I have a customer looking for unity with "50
Voice-Mail integrated with Exh 2003/2007 including 16 sessions
competitive"... Is this going to do the job:

MCS7825I4-K9-UCB1 Cisco Unity Connection 7.1 MCS 7825 IBM Appliance
UNITYCN7-50USR Unity Connection, 24 ports, 50 users - All user Features

Is 50 mailboxes same as 50 users? I've noticed that this is the smallest
bundle license, right? Is there an I3 server hiding from me? I hate cisco
configurator...

P.S. How do you order 79XX phone with a DLUs... separately or order them
with CCM 4 licences and then use licencing team to convert the licences?


Thanks
--
Ratko


dialp at ucar

Nov 24, 2009, 12:40 PM

Post #2 of 7 (1076 views)
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Re: Ordering Unity [In reply to]

Not sure about unity, but for the phones (assuming you're not using
CUWL), the DLU sku's are:

LIC-CM-DL-1000000=
LIC-CM-DL-100000=
LIC-CM-DL-10000=
LIC-CM-DL-1000=
LIC-CM-DL-100=
LIC-CM-DL-10=
LIC-CM-DL-25000=
LIC-CM-DL-500000=
LIC-CM-DL-50000=
LIC-CM-DL-5000=
LIC-CM-DL-500=

Each number above reflects the number of DLUs. The number of DLUs required for each phone are as follows:

7906G 2
7910 2
7911 3
7912 3
7920 4
7921 4
7931 4
7935 3
7936 3
Third_Party_SIP_Device_(Basic) 3
Unified Personal Communicator 3
IP_Communicator 3
7940 4
7941 4
7941G-GE 4
7942G 4
7945G 4
7960 4
7961 4
7961G-GE 4
7962G 4
7965G 4
7970 5
7971 5
7975G 5

--paul

On 11/24/2009 1:33 PM, Ratko Dodevski wrote:
> Hi, quick intervention... I have a customer looking for unity with "50
> Voice-Mail integrated with Exh 2003/2007 including 16 sessions
> competitive"... Is this going to do the job:
>
> MCS7825I4-K9-UCB1 Cisco Unity Connection 7.1 MCS 7825 IBM Appliance
> UNITYCN7-50USR Unity Connection, 24 ports, 50 users - All user Features
>
> Is 50 mailboxes same as 50 users? I've noticed that this is the
> smallest bundle license, right? Is there an I3 server hiding from me?
> I hate cisco configurator...
>
> P.S. How do you order 79XX phone with a DLUs... separately or order
> them with CCM 4 licences and then use licencing team to convert the
> licences?
>
>
> Thanks
> --
> Ratko
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> _______________________________________________
> cisco-voip mailing list
> cisco-voip [at] puck
> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip
>

--
----
Paul Dial
Network Engineer
National Center for Atmospheric Research
303-497-1261
dialp [at] ucar


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SCASPER at mtb

Nov 24, 2009, 4:42 PM

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Re: Ordering Unity [In reply to]

LIC-CM-DL-1000000=

I wonder if it comes with a bulk DLU discount? It would also be an interesting cluster design exercise.

>>> paul dial <dialp [at] ucar> 11/24/09 3:41 PM >>>
Not sure about unity, but for the phones (assuming you're not using
CUWL), the DLU sku's are:

LIC-CM-DL-1000000=
LIC-CM-DL-100000=
LIC-CM-DL-10000=
LIC-CM-DL-1000=
LIC-CM-DL-100=
LIC-CM-DL-10=
LIC-CM-DL-25000=
LIC-CM-DL-500000=
LIC-CM-DL-50000=
LIC-CM-DL-5000=
LIC-CM-DL-500=

Each number above reflects the number of DLUs. The number of DLUs required for each phone are as follows:

7906G 2
7910 2
7911 3
7912 3
7920 4
7921 4
7931 4
7935 3
7936 3
Third_Party_SIP_Device_(Basic) 3
Unified Personal Communicator 3
IP_Communicator 3
7940 4
7941 4
7941G-GE 4
7942G 4
7945G 4
7960 4
7961 4
7961G-GE 4
7962G 4
7965G 4
7970 5
7971 5
7975G 5

--paul

On 11/24/2009 1:33 PM, Ratko Dodevski wrote:
> Hi, quick intervention... I have a customer looking for unity with "50
> Voice-Mail integrated with Exh 2003/2007 including 16 sessions
> competitive"... Is this going to do the job:
>
> MCS7825I4-K9-UCB1 Cisco Unity Connection 7.1 MCS 7825 IBM Appliance
> UNITYCN7-50USR Unity Connection, 24 ports, 50 users - All user Features
>
> Is 50 mailboxes same as 50 users? I've noticed that this is the
> smallest bundle license, right? Is there an I3 server hiding from me?
> I hate cisco configurator...
>
> P.S. How do you order 79XX phone with a DLUs... separately or order
> them with CCM 4 licences and then use licencing team to convert the
> licences?
>
>
> Thanks
> --
> Ratko
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> _______________________________________________
> cisco-voip mailing list
> cisco-voip [at] puck
> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip
>

--
----
Paul Dial
Network Engineer
National Center for Atmospheric Research
303-497-1261
dialp [at] ucar


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https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip


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rade239 at gmail

Nov 24, 2009, 5:02 PM

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Re: Ordering Unity [In reply to]

50.000.000 $ ... even BAT is not helping here for registering all of
those phones :)))


On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 1:42 AM, STEVEN CASPER <SCASPER [at] mtb> wrote:

> LIC-CM-DL-1000000=
>
> I wonder if it comes with a bulk DLU discount? It would also be an
> interesting cluster design exercise.
>
> >>> paul dial <dialp [at] ucar> 11/24/09 3:41 PM >>>
> Not sure about unity, but for the phones (assuming you're not using
> CUWL), the DLU sku's are:
>
> LIC-CM-DL-1000000=
> LIC-CM-DL-100000=
> LIC-CM-DL-10000=
> LIC-CM-DL-1000=
> LIC-CM-DL-100=
> LIC-CM-DL-10=
> LIC-CM-DL-25000=
> LIC-CM-DL-500000=
> LIC-CM-DL-50000=
> LIC-CM-DL-5000=
> LIC-CM-DL-500=
>
> Each number above reflects the number of DLUs. The number of DLUs required
> for each phone are as follows:
>
> 7906G 2
> 7910 2
> 7911 3
> 7912 3
> 7920 4
> 7921 4
> 7931 4
> 7935 3
> 7936 3
> Third_Party_SIP_Device_(Basic) 3
> Unified Personal Communicator 3
> IP_Communicator 3
> 7940 4
> 7941 4
> 7941G-GE 4
> 7942G 4
> 7945G 4
> 7960 4
> 7961 4
> 7961G-GE 4
> 7962G 4
> 7965G 4
> 7970 5
> 7971 5
> 7975G 5
>
> --paul
>
> On 11/24/2009 1:33 PM, Ratko Dodevski wrote:
> > Hi, quick intervention... I have a customer looking for unity with "50
> > Voice-Mail integrated with Exh 2003/2007 including 16 sessions
> > competitive"... Is this going to do the job:
> >
> > MCS7825I4-K9-UCB1 Cisco Unity Connection 7.1 MCS 7825 IBM Appliance
> > UNITYCN7-50USR Unity Connection, 24 ports, 50 users - All user Features
> >
> > Is 50 mailboxes same as 50 users? I've noticed that this is the
> > smallest bundle license, right? Is there an I3 server hiding from me?
> > I hate cisco configurator...
> >
> > P.S. How do you order 79XX phone with a DLUs... separately or order
> > them with CCM 4 licences and then use licencing team to convert the
> > licences?
> >
> >
> > Thanks
> > --
> > Ratko
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > cisco-voip mailing list
> > cisco-voip [at] puck
> > https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip
> >
>
> --
> ----
> Paul Dial
> Network Engineer
> National Center for Atmospheric Research
> 303-497-1261
> dialp [at] ucar
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> cisco-voip mailing list
> cisco-voip [at] puck
> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip
>
>
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>
>
>


--
Ratko


rade239 at gmail

Nov 24, 2009, 5:08 PM

Post #5 of 7 (1064 views)
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Re: Ordering Unity [In reply to]

Let's get back to my problem...
Technical features and detailed specifications of Voice Mail & Messaging
Server:

Operating system on which the Software is installed must be Linux-based.
Support 1000 IP Telephone
Be licensed and have 50 Audio / Mailbox-and integrated with Microsoft
Exchange2007 mail services.
Licensed to competitors support and 16 interactive sessions with 50
mailboxes

Unity or Unity Connections????

Regards


adman at adman

Nov 24, 2009, 5:50 PM

Post #6 of 7 (1065 views)
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Re: Ordering Unity [In reply to]

Yeah I've never understood that part number. A CUCM cluster tops out
at 30,000 phones, so even if every phone is a 7975 you only get to
240,000 DLU for devices. If you assume each of those phones is a user
you could add an extra 90,000 for mobility and presence. I don't see
how it is even possible to use a million DLU on a single cluster.

-Adam

On Tuesday, November 24, 2009, STEVEN CASPER <SCASPER [at] mtb> wrote:
> LIC-CM-DL-1000000=
>
> I wonder if it comes with a bulk DLU  discount? It would also be an interesting cluster design exercise.
>
>>>> paul dial <dialp [at] ucar> 11/24/09 3:41 PM >>>
> Not sure about unity, but for the phones (assuming you're not using
> CUWL), the DLU sku's are:
>
> LIC-CM-DL-1000000=
> LIC-CM-DL-100000=
> LIC-CM-DL-10000=
> LIC-CM-DL-1000=
> LIC-CM-DL-100=
> LIC-CM-DL-10=
> LIC-CM-DL-25000=
> LIC-CM-DL-500000=
> LIC-CM-DL-50000=
> LIC-CM-DL-5000=
> LIC-CM-DL-500=
>
> Each number above reflects the number of DLUs. The number of DLUs required for each phone are as follows:
>
> 7906G 2
> 7910 2
> 7911 3
> 7912 3
> 7920 4
> 7921 4
> 7931 4
> 7935 3
> 7936 3
> Third_Party_SIP_Device_(Basic) 3
> Unified Personal Communicator 3
> IP_Communicator 3
> 7940 4
> 7941 4
> 7941G-GE 4
> 7942G 4
> 7945G 4
> 7960 4
> 7961 4
> 7961G-GE 4
> 7962G 4
> 7965G 4
> 7970 5
> 7971 5
> 7975G 5
>
> --paul
>
> On 11/24/2009 1:33 PM, Ratko Dodevski wrote:
>> Hi, quick intervention... I have a customer looking for unity with "50
>> Voice-Mail integrated with Exh 2003/2007 including 16 sessions
>> competitive"... Is this going to do the job:
>>
>> MCS7825I4-K9-UCB1 Cisco Unity Connection 7.1 MCS 7825 IBM Appliance
>> UNITYCN7-50USR Unity Connection, 24 ports, 50 users - All user Features
>>
>> Is 50 mailboxes same as 50 users? I've noticed that this is the
>> smallest bundle license, right? Is there an I3 server hiding from me?
>> I hate cisco configurator...
>>
>> P.S. How do you order 79XX phone with a DLUs... separately or order
>> them with CCM 4 licences and then use licencing team to convert the
>> licences?
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>> --
>> Ratko
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> cisco-voip mailing list
>> cisco-voip [at] puck
>> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip
>>
>
> --
> ----
> Paul Dial
> Network Engineer
> National Center for Atmospheric Research
> 303-497-1261
> dialp [at] ucar
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> cisco-voip mailing list
> cisco-voip [at] puck
> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip
>
>
> ************************************
> This email may contain privileged and/or confidential information that is intended solely for the use of the addressee.  If you are not the intended recipient or entity, you are strictly prohibited from disclosing, copying, distributing or using any of the information contained in the transmission.  If you received this communication in error, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy.  This communication may contain nonpublic personal information about consumers subject to the restrictions of the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act and the Sarbanes-Oxley Act.  You may not directly or indirectly reuse or disclose such information for any purpose other than to provide the services for which you are receiving the information.
> There are risks associated with the use of electronic transmission.  The sender of this information does not control the method of transmittal or service providers and assumes no duty or obligation for the security, receipt, or third party interception of this transmission.
> ************************************
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> cisco-voip [at] puck
> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip
>
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denis.mailer at gmail

Nov 25, 2009, 6:07 AM

Post #7 of 7 (1047 views)
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Re: Ordering Unity [In reply to]

Hello Ratko,

If the operating system must be Linux, then the answer is Unity Connection.
Unity at this time is still Windows based.

To support 1000 users you can use Platform Overlay 1 (
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/voicesw/ps6789/ps5745/ps6509/data_sheet_c78-491743.html)
which uses a 7825 server.

I'm not sure what is meant by "Licensed to competitors support" ?

The exchange integration piece is the catch here. Unity Connection is a
stand alone voice mail system. you can do "Integrated messaging" on it,
where the end users mail client (I assume Microsoft Outlook) can be setup
with a second email account as an imap account pointing at the Unity
Connection server. In this way the user would still have email and voice
mail in outlook, however it would be two separate inboxes. If it is an
absolute requirement to integrate with Exchange and have a full unified
messaging (voicemail and email in the same inbox) then Unity is required,
however then they will not have a Linux OS


yes 50 users = 50 mailboxes

And yes I believe the 50 user / 24 port bundle is the smallest available
bundle.

the I3 server is an older version of the same server and is EoL, the 7816 is
the smaller server however that is not listed as supported on the supported
server list.


--
Denis Pointer, A. Sc. T.
Customer Systems Analyst (Senior Design)

CCVP, CCNA, CCDA
Cisco Unified Contact Center Specialist
Cisco IP Telephony Design Specialist
Cisco Unity Design Specialist
Cisco Unity Support Specialist
Cisco IP Communications Express Specialist


On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 7:08 PM, Ratko Dodevski <rade239 [at] gmail> wrote:

> Let's get back to my problem...
> Technical features and detailed specifications of Voice Mail & Messaging
> Server:
>
> Operating system on which the Software is installed must be Linux-based.
> Support 1000 IP Telephone
> Be licensed and have 50 Audio / Mailbox-and integrated with Microsoft
> Exchange2007 mail services.
> Licensed to competitors support and 16 interactive sessions with 50
> mailboxes
>
> Unity or Unity Connections????
>
> Regards
>
> _______________________________________________
> cisco-voip mailing list
> cisco-voip [at] puck
> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip
>
>

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