Mailing List Archive by Gossamer Threads http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/cisco/bba/ en-us (c) Gossamer Threads Inc. All rights reserved. 12 Feb 2012 16:55:59 -0800 120 75 23 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/cisco/bba/ http://www.gossamer-threads.com/images/lists/rss_logo.jpg Hello, I'm trying to se up a Cisco 881G router to act as a PPPoE to L2TP LAC. I have the configuration entered, and have created the bba-group, but 11 Jan 2012 10:03:13 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/cisco/bba/156607 I learned from our SE today that platform feature development for the 7200 has ended, and that SB code train is going to be EOL very soon. The recomm 20 Jun 2011 13:46:04 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/cisco/bba/149114 How do providers typically implement routing for multiple LNSs (terminating ADSL user sessions)? Given that a set of LNSes could be carrying many (tho 08 Jun 2011 12:34:10 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/cisco/bba/148697 Hello, For those of you using the ASR 1002 as a PPPoE LNS, positive experiences?  I'm looking to replace a 7200VXR/NPE-G1.  Does it support DHCP- 08 Jun 2011 11:06:15 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/cisco/bba/148684 Hi, I m trying to achieve redundancy for gateway of pppoe adsl clients on LNS. My scenario is as below. > Telco LAC sends the PPPOE session to our L 23 Mar 2011 02:26:12 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/cisco/bba/145937 Is there any way to limit a user's access to a particular VRF when logging into the CLI? (either via AAA or locally). I seem to remember it was availa 09 Mar 2011 09:02:53 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/cisco/bba/145353 !--- Configuration LTS vpdn enable /* Activation du processus VPDN (LTS + LNS) */ vpdn multihop /* activation de la fonction LTS */ vpdn authen-befor 17 Feb 2011 00:19:07 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/cisco/bba/144477 Hi, I have a scenario where I would like to forward particular user sessions from one LNS to another (which is VRF-aware), ideally under the control 15 Feb 2011 01:56:56 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/cisco/bba/144325 Hello, I'm wondering if it's currently possible to insert a dual-stack IPv4/IPv6 PPPoE session into a VRF? My setup is very straightforward wi 04 Feb 2011 08:49:36 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/cisco/bba/143856 Hi, I've got two design questions: 1. Is it possible to map a net via L2TP (IPv4 PI Space) to a client, which comes from a dynamic IP Address? E.g 19 Jan 2011 10:23:23 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/cisco/bba/143054 This thread may help: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/cisco/nsp/44608 Frank -----Original Message----- From: cisco-bba-bounces@puck.nether.ne 13 Jan 2011 15:11:32 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/cisco/bba/142766 Is there any way to specify the bandwidth on virtual-access interfaces (to be used for OSPF, QoS, etc) via RADIUS/AAA? I'm currently using "lcp:interf 12 Jan 2011 07:31:17 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/cisco/bba/142672 Hi, Is there an elegant way of imposing a rate-limit for users which exceed a download quota? We could manipulate a user's virtual-template on the LN 06 Jan 2011 04:42:42 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/cisco/bba/142413 Halo all, I understood that ACL on int's were transitting traffic and ACL on line was to the router? I ask because I could not access router until 11 Dec 2010 01:56:54 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/cisco/bba/141564 I am getting this error when trying to bring up the second link on a multilink ppp Nov 11 16:55:35.110: Vi3 MLP: Request add link to bundle Nov 11 1 12 Nov 2010 06:32:09 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/cisco/bba/140366 Hi All, I'm looking for a way to re-mark customer packets as it enters/hits the LNS. Eg: cust_1 --upload-->> [ LNS ] --download-->> cust_2 - In 01 Sep 2010 23:22:32 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/cisco/bba/136681 Hi, We have 7204's as LNS and they accumulate unused virtual access interfaces such that on one device that has about 100 active connections it has j 25 Aug 2010 21:48:19 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/cisco/bba/136307 Hi All, Just wondering if anyone has come across a situation where snmp is administratively shutting down the Virtual-Access on the LNS. What snmp c 25 Aug 2010 15:43:24 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/cisco/bba/136299 Hi, We're looking to deploy IPv6 across our DSL subscriber base, we are almost there with the configuration but are having issues with 'first hop rou 06 Jul 2010 12:52:03 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/cisco/bba/133605 Hi all, I'm trying to push policy maps to the BRAS through RADIUS for PPPoE customers and essentially have noticed the following problem: 1. I 25 May 2010 03:23:59 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/cisco/bba/131513 We are looking to update our LNS configurations to improve resiliency, by adding LNSes and removing static routing. What do most SPs do in terms of be 25 Apr 2010 11:04:37 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/cisco/bba/129975 Dear colleagues, I've got some serious trouble debugging a problem with some of our multilink bundles. I already moved them to an separate LNS, to ha 23 Mar 2010 08:02:14 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/cisco/bba/127882 Hi all, I am trying to work out how Cisco IP pool selection can be implemented in a PPPoe environment. BRAS : Cisco 7206, IOS 12.2-31(SB8) Let's s 18 Feb 2010 01:54:45 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/cisco/bba/125702 Dear collegues, I'm having problems implementing a new LNS setup. For load balancing and redundancy reasons, we've got several LNSes (cisco 7200 pla 27 Jan 2010 14:02:23 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/cisco/bba/124454 Dear Friends! I have the following scenario. (Customer Cisco Router)------Ethernet-----[Routed CPE]-------RF Media---------(ISP Cisco Router) 22 Dec 2009 20:32:10 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/cisco/bba/122754 Hi, I'm experiencing problems, when I want to turn dual stack IPv6 and IPv4 routing on 7206VXR that is configured as BRAS. When I put command "ipv6 u 12 Nov 2009 05:51:04 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/cisco/bba/120390 Hi all, I am trying to work out how Cisco NAS allocate IPs to customers in a PPPoe environment. Lets say that I have a pool named pooltest with di 11 Nov 2009 01:29:36 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/cisco/bba/120331 Hi All, We're moving customers from ATM to Ethernet and we have two customers that are using PPPoX to connect. customer modem ---phone line---> [ 27 Oct 2009 19:22:35 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/cisco/bba/119289 Hi all I want to implement the pppoe service at one cisco 7600 -sup720bxl-SIp600-Spa5gbe ,but no success. I have searching at the cisco web to see 08 Oct 2009 13:03:49 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/cisco/bba/118221 Hi, I have a 7206VXR router connected to two radius servers and sending radius attributes to those servers. I have already set up the conf as 08 Oct 2009 03:12:27 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/cisco/bba/118190 Hi All, Is anyone using L4 time redirects in production? I'm testing this feature at the moment by using radius flat files to assign them to me whe 30 Sep 2009 19:11:15 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/cisco/bba/117707 Hi All, Just trying to get my head around what technologies might be available to alert ADSL subscribers that their credit card is about to expire. 23 Sep 2009 21:25:31 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/cisco/bba/117214 Hi, I'm new to cisco PPPoE server. I'm looking for a feature to put user into different virtual user group (with their own routing table) by using ra 15 Sep 2009 03:40:12 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/cisco/bba/116636 Hi all, Somebody knows if exist a cisco-avpair for virtual templates? I have a lot of PPPoE sessions inbound my router for the same interface inter 09 Sep 2009 04:40:34 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/cisco/bba/116263 Hi All, Is it better to shape or police DSL subscribers that have exceeded their quota or does it not matter which method you choose? We are current 06 Sep 2009 23:41:07 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/cisco/bba/116104 Has anyone seen this happen on the Cisco ASR's? If I issue the command "vpdn softshut", all my L2TP sessions start to drop. lns2#conf t Enter conf 12 Jul 2009 22:11:47 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/cisco/bba/112658 From: Mauritz Lewies <mauritz@three6five.com> Reply-To: mauritz@three6five.com To: cisco- 22 Jun 2009 05:21:24 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/cisco/bba/111552 Hi We're having some weird issues with L2TP terminated links. L2TP sessions are being terminated and built correctly from Radius sent config but i 17 Jun 2009 07:15:41 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/cisco/bba/111303 When I looked at my "sh subscriber statistics" I noticed that - my "sessions currently up" does not add up to the number of PPPoA and PPPoE sessions: 04 Jun 2009 03:22:53 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/cisco/bba/110435 Hi, Does anyone know how to monitor the number of authenticated subscriber using SNMP? And also I want to monitor the output referred by show subscri 03 Jun 2009 00:02:03 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/cisco/bba/110347 Hi list I have an old AS5300 that is out of support. I'm looking for SW that is more recent than c5300-is-mz.121-17.bin but still runs on 64ram and f 12 May 2009 08:04:24 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/cisco/bba/109039 Hi all, I have a successfull L2TP tunel with 5 five users working without problems, my headache start when sixth session try to establish a connectio 12 May 2009 02:26:11 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/cisco/bba/109024 Hello I have installed a SIP 600 at one cisco 7600 router .I have inserted two SPA 5xGE but only one of them is online .I see that the SIP seem to 10 Apr 2009 01:21:49 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/cisco/bba/107433 Hi All, We've recently changed the way we configure our VPDN groups on the LNS. In the past we use to configure a VPDN group on our LNS for every LA 06 Apr 2009 20:30:37 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/cisco/bba/107164 Dear friends! I am trying to establish a L2TP tunnel between a LAC (Which is also Acting as BRAS) and LNS (Which is also acting as BRAS). Use 31 Mar 2009 05:30:08 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/cisco/bba/106753 Anyone come across what the state "wiccn" means on an LNS? We're seeing a lot of this happen after reducing our LNS farm from several LNS's to just a 25 Mar 2009 17:17:32 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/cisco/bba/106414 Hello, I am part-way through configuring ISG for the following CPE requirements: L2 Connected DHCP Clients AAA Authentication - via CPE MAC address 11 Mar 2009 06:13:57 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/cisco/bba/105456 Are you using L2TP services? I think LNS and LAC regarding of L2TP environment. Anyway you must send that question to Juniper list(j-nsp), Hug, Thiag 24 Feb 2009 16:23:29 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/cisco/bba/104451 I am looking for a professional Broadband-access training course (advanced).I am interested at the aspect of Radius and ppp session interacting (param 21 Feb 2009 00:45:31 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/cisco/bba/104235 Hello all I have a question regarding Juniper ERX routers, providing PPPoE service to broadband users. In the radius accounting files we see many PPP 20 Feb 2009 00:05:26 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/cisco/bba/104161 HI I need opininions about a good broadband router .How about cisco 10000 series ,ISG service etc.We are going to choose routers for broadband.Have 17 Feb 2009 11:45:27 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/cisco/bba/103944 Hi I use cisco 7200 vxr router for pppoe services.For the moment are about 800 sessions .For one user are 500 sessions of NAT.But the cpu is about 60 17 Feb 2009 05:38:43 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/cisco/bba/103895 Hello all I have been trying to experiment with Cisco routers taking up the role of LAC. I would like to be able to shape the aggregate traffic of al 02 Feb 2009 12:23:27 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/cisco/bba/102914 Is there a way to build an ACL on a Virtual-Access template such that the connection can only use the IP address given to it by IPCP? I applied stric 31 Jan 2009 13:35:45 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/cisco/bba/102834 Hi I've set up 2 new LNS for DSL termination. I've configured aaa accounting update periodic 60 on them, like I did on the old ones, but I do not g 29 Jan 2009 06:11:38 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/cisco/bba/102677 Hi Everyone, I've got a situation where a number of Windows Vista machines are having problems with the PPPoE client, and are keep getting error 815 26 Jan 2009 20:07:02 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/cisco/bba/102507 Hi Victor We see the same thing here, I believe it's because of the authen-before forward in the vpdn config but I'm unable to test removing it at th 24 Jan 2009 04:52:41 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/cisco/bba/102398 Hi,Can anyone please explain what is a virtual access interface and what is the use of this interface? Also what is virtual template? Thanks all 23 Jan 2009 18:06:08 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/cisco/bba/102394 Hello all I am doing some tests with Cisco routers that have to: - Act as LAC for some domains - Provide internet access for some other domains (ter 23 Jan 2009 04:43:13 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/cisco/bba/102353 Hi, I have this problem, I work to ISP, in our pop we have a Cisco 7206VXR with ATM card that manage all adsl and hdsl our customers, now we have thi 18 Jan 2009 03:02:46 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/cisco/bba/102047 I was looking over my logs and I saw these two entries: Jan 15 14:25:24.156 CST: %SEC-6-IPACCESSLOGP: list 135 denied udp 207.x.x.x(65249) -> 15 Jan 2009 12:33:06 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/cisco/bba/101918 Hi all. I am a IOS newbie and need to configure a SOHO97 router. I am trying to learn basic CLI now but I don't really have time for it because the ro 15 Jan 2009 11:05:44 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/cisco/bba/101897 Hi Everyone, I have a DSL connection running PPPoE with a routed subnet, the service provider indicated that it will use the 1st IP address of the ro 11 Jan 2009 19:07:10 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/cisco/bba/101542 We have an ATM interface on a Cisco 7206VXR that we want to clean up the config. It has hundreds of individual entries that could be put into a few " 09 Jan 2009 13:40:04 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/cisco/bba/101470 Hi all. I recently purchased a Soho 97 router to connect my LAN via DSL. This is the first time I deploy any Cisco hardware and I have no experience w 08 Jan 2009 12:49:25 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/cisco/bba/101415 If there aren't any concerns about the console, or having to mess with bandwidth points . . . you should be in good shape. Apparently Brandon though 07 Jan 2009 18:40:20 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/cisco/bba/101333 Hi List, This year we are planning to use the Cisco ASR Series to aggregate PPPoE sessions for our ADSL users. Someone has already use 07 Jan 2009 16:32:26 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/cisco/bba/101332 We did the same thing over a year ago. It is supported but not recommended. Leaving the I/O boards in creates limits. Programming would be through 07 Jan 2009 06:46:02 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/cisco/bba/101248 I'm getting to change out my NPE-400 with an NPE-G2 and while the GigE ports are a great upgrade, with this port shuffle two more Ethernet ports would 07 Jan 2009 06:21:31 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/cisco/bba/101247 Hi Everyone, I have a L2TP/PPPoE setup in a 7206VXR and is working fine. What I now want to do is to implement dynamic shaping/policing on the PPPoE 06 Jan 2009 20:36:53 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/cisco/bba/101222 Hi all,I'm unable to understand/imagine the VP and VC concept in ATM technology.Can anyone explain the concept in detail?Any website pointers or anima 02 Jan 2009 06:35:35 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/cisco/bba/100995 Hi all, Merry Christmas & Happy New Year to all. I have configured vpdn groups on LAC and LNS .I brought up single session.Now on LNS side I removed 31 Dec 2008 05:04:06 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/cisco/bba/100953 Hi all. I just purchased an old SOHO 97 broadband router and I was looking to update the IOS. Does anybody know which is the most recent version compa 20 Dec 2008 23:15:31 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/cisco/bba/100717 Hello all The company I work for has a number of cisco routers acting solely as LAC, providing wholeshale services to other ISPs that terminate the s 15 Dec 2008 11:22:45 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/cisco/bba/100457 For those using an external DHCP server for their BRAS, what's been your practice in setting the max-lease-time and default-lease-time for PPPoA/E cli 08 Dec 2008 10:30:57 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/cisco/bba/100077 I 'upgraded' from 12.4(19b) to 12.2(SB11)31 this morning and rancid is showing me that IOS automatically added 'ip mtu 1492' to my interface. I alr 02 Dec 2008 01:14:41 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/cisco/bba/99741 Have been happily using per-session QoS for a while now in 12.4M and am now forced to move to 12.2SR as part of a platform change. Doing so requires 17 Nov 2008 07:31:10 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/cisco/bba/98819 Hello Please give me the required guideline for configuring up to 32 permanent virtual circuits (PVC) per HWIC-4SHDSL if it is feasible. I am usi 25 Oct 2008 04:53:22 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/cisco/bba/97521 Hi Gerald Normaly we are use this device for L2tp tunnel authentication. --- On Tue, 10/21/08, cisco-bba-request@puck.nether.net <cisco-bba-request@p 22 Oct 2008 01:25:54 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/cisco/bba/97315 Bonjour cisco-bba, We actualty want to use Alcatel Dslam and Cisco 10000 for Dsl aggregation. Does any one work with two of them? When ppp session 21 Oct 2008 05:24:04 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/cisco/bba/97251 Hi, This is my first post so forgive me if it's in the wrong place. I am having an identical problem to this thread HYPERLINK "http://gossame 09 Oct 2008 08:20:03 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/cisco/bba/96653 HI Whenever our L2TP provider has any problems and they drop our link and the 1500 or so L2TP / ADSL connections we have trouble when they all try an 06 Oct 2008 05:07:56 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/cisco/bba/96435 Hello, I have Cisco 7206vxr with NPE-G1 and PA-A6-OC3SMI, I must try to configure it to terminate some customer by adsl connection..... my atm card i 20 Sep 2008 12:28:15 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/cisco/bba/95578 Hello, I am wondering what IOS people are using or would recommend for the following setup: 7206VXR NPE-G1, 1GB RAM, mix of PA-A3-T3 & PA-A6-T3 cards 02 Sep 2008 10:06:36 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/cisco/bba/94206 *Storesonline, Double Your Promotional Email and Ecommerce Revenue* If you want to be successful in ecommerce, you will have to work harder than just 13 Aug 2008 06:00:02 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/cisco/bba/92872 The problem was at the radius server (ALEPO) .At the group configuration it was Idle-time out 120 min and the session timeout 2 hours . I put them 0 a 28 Jul 2008 02:40:43 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/cisco/bba/91714 Hi In our service provider we have about 400 users that are connected with PPPoE connection .The connection is with adsl modems that terminate DSLAM 24 Jul 2008 07:11:12 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/cisco/bba/91515 Hi, This is my first time doing bba and I need help setting up b/w allocation to clients I've a 7204VXR G1 running c7200-js-mz.122-31.SB12.bin I wo 19 Jul 2008 06:03:02 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/cisco/bba/91150 When I was running 12.2(26) the NAS-Port that was reported to our RADIUS server was the Virtual-Interface value (i.e Vi435). Sun Jun 22 00:5 18 Jul 2008 15:55:41 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/cisco/bba/91137 Last night we upgraded our transport network and the OC-3 card in shelf also reset, causing all our DSL connections into our Cisco 7206VXR (with NPE40 17 Jul 2008 20:10:02 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/cisco/bba/91052 Hi, we are terminating via L2TP our PPPoE users on a 7206vxr with npe-g1. Customers are then terminating these sessions in a VRF using Radius attribu 11 Jul 2008 07:57:52 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/cisco/bba/90607 Hello I have a question regarding the ability to adapt the MTU for a PPPoE session. >From the LNS side using the commands: Virtual-template X ppp 08 Jun 2008 02:45:49 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/cisco/bba/88677 Actually, this is the SP in the router so it won't impact traffic forwarding. Now how to decline the NetFlow entries? Cheers. Router#sh proc cpu | 03 Jun 2008 11:51:29 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/cisco/bba/88335 On one of our LNS, we use the bba-group command to terminate PPP sessions and on another we use vpdn-group pppoe? Both are 7301's and running IOS 12.3 18 May 2008 18:35:24 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/cisco/bba/87588 I move the working PPPoE configuration from 7200 to 7600 IOS 12.2(33)SRC, it does not work, debug pppoe packets does not show anything. Pls help. bb 16 May 2008 10:41:11 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/cisco/bba/87529 Hi All, For those who have deployed MPLS within your core network, would you mind sharing some good books/guides/resources for deploying MPLS within 12 May 2008 19:43:19 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/cisco/bba/87219 Hi, Anybody knows if it's possible to use load balancing (LNS) while using client initiated L2TP? Last time (couple of years ago) it was not possibl 02 May 2008 14:31:56 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/cisco/bba/86621 This may sound like a relatively trivial thing to do but I can't find any examples on the web to do what I need. All I want to do is a simple "sh ip 30 Apr 2008 21:06:30 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/cisco/bba/86500 Hi All, I'm trying to set up a VPN for a few sites and I'm testing how to get traffic from an ATM cloud through our switched network as seen below. 20 Apr 2008 22:09:48 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/cisco/bba/85848 Hi There... We have a SSG gateway where we put customers who have not paid their bill. Customer -> LNS-SSG -> CORE (with SLB config on it) -> DNS 16 Apr 2008 22:03:29 -0800 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/cisco/bba/85581