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phaylon at dunkelheit

Apr 13, 2006, 8:59 AM

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Matt S Trout said:
> *cough* data: URLs *cough*

Are they usable in CSS somehow?

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sri at oook

Apr 13, 2006, 9:03 AM

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13.04.2006 17:51 Matt S Trout:

> luke saunders wrote:
>>
>>> Pure XHTML (no extra tags) rounded corners technique was covered in
>>> yesterday's issue of SitePoint's Design View #20 mailing list. It's
>>> pretty clever actually.
>>
>> It looks like that method works by using background images on various
>> elements. Sadly, that's no good for reasons outlined earlier in the
>> thread. Thanks for the suggestion though.
>
> *cough* data: URLs *cough*

You mean embedding corner image png's in the css?

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Nigel.Metheringham at dev

Apr 13, 2006, 9:08 AM

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Re: Suggested minor fixes for Catalyst error output [In reply to]

Theres spiffycorners - not related to YAML - which has some horrible
mangling of the HTML, but no images
http://www.spiffycorners.com/

I have to admit I don't understand what the hell its doing
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sri at oook

Apr 13, 2006, 9:11 AM

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Re: Suggested minor fixes for Catalyst error output [In reply to]

Ok, discussion closed, we have a solution.

We'll use corner png's served by Static::Simple (just like the
welcome screen images).
It will fall back to square corners if images are not available
(deactivated Static::Simple plugin, crash...).

Luke would implement this on monday, patches welcome if you want it
earlier. :)

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Wade.Stuart at fallon

Apr 13, 2006, 9:21 AM

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> 13.04.2006 luke saunders:
> > Damn, you got my hopes up. That's not quite it. We want a single
> > outline of even width that goes all the way around the box. Just
> > make your Cat site crash and look at the error screen to see what I
> > mean, I can't describe it.
>
> http://files.oook.de/debug_screen_ff.png
>
> Thats the current look of the debug screen in Firefox.
>

And I still do not see where niftcube fails in this area -- no images and
one js file that can be inlined.

http://pro.html.it/niftycube/nifty11.html

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Wade.Stuart at fallon

Apr 13, 2006, 9:34 AM

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> > 13.04.2006 luke saunders:
> > > Damn, you got my hopes up. That's not quite it. We want a single
> > > outline of even width that goes all the way around the box. Just
> > > make your Cat site crash and look at the error screen to see what I
> > > mean, I can't describe it.
> >
> > http://files.oook.de/debug_screen_ff.png
> >
> > Thats the current look of the debug screen in Firefox.
> >
>
> And I still do not see where niftcube fails in this area -- no images and
> one js file that can be inlined.
>
> http://pro.html.it/niftycube/nifty11.html
>

Also, as an added advantage -- it renders fine on safari, firebox, ie 5 and
6 windows and
degrades well to square corners on ie 5 on mac or if js is disabled.

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sri at oook

Apr 13, 2006, 9:47 AM

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13.04.2006 18:21 Wade.Stuart [at] fallon:
> And I still do not see where niftcube fails in this area -- no
> images and
> one js file that can be inlined.
>
> http://pro.html.it/niftycube/nifty11.html

look again (zoom in), there is a 1px border in and outside, it looks
completely different without those borders.

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pagaltzis at gmx

Apr 13, 2006, 12:34 PM

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* Sebastian Riedel <sri [at] oook> [2006-04-13 14:40]:
> 13.04.2006 14:18 A. Pagaltzis:
> >It works in every modern browser and requires a couple of
> >lines of CSS inlined in the page instead of a whole honking’
> >JS library. You could even inline the required images into the
> >CSS by using `data:` URIs, in which case the stylesheet would
> >be entirely self-contained.
> >
> >It won’t work in fossils like IE, but would still work in many
> >more browsers than the current `-moz-border-radius` bit.
>
> This one requires images, thats no option for the debug screen
> since Static::Simple is just a plugin.

Read the stuff you just quoted… :-)

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sri at oook

Apr 13, 2006, 12:54 PM

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13.04.2006 21:34 A. Pagaltzis:

> * Sebastian Riedel <sri [at] oook> [2006-04-13 14:40]:
>> 13.04.2006 14:18 A. Pagaltzis:
>>> It works in every modern browser and requires a couple of
>>> lines of CSS inlined in the page instead of a whole honking�
>>> JS library. You could even inline the required images into the
>>> CSS by using `data:` URIs, in which case the stylesheet would
>>> be entirely self-contained.
>>>
>>> It won�t work in fossils like IE, but would still work in many
>>> more browsers than the current `-moz-border-radius` bit.
>>
>> This one requires images, thats no option for the debug screen
>> since Static::Simple is just a plugin.
>
> Read the stuff you just quoted� :-)

:)

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acid06 at gmail

Apr 13, 2006, 7:25 PM

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Re: Suggested minor fixes for Catalyst error output [In reply to]

On 4/13/06, Sebastian Riedel <sri [at] oook> wrote:
> We'll use corner png's served by Static::Simple (just like the
> welcome screen images).
> It will fall back to square corners if images are not available
> (deactivated Static::Simple plugin, crash...).

Have you possibly taken a look at Rico's round() effect?
Rico is nice a JavaScript library specially crafted for eye-candy
(openrico.org).

It seems to be around 200 lines of JavaScript code.

Otherwise, I've just looked at the previously mentioned Spiffy Corners
( http://www.spiffycorners.com/ ) and it really seems much more
promising: it doesn't use images nor JavaScript, only some 40 lines of
CSS + about 10 lines of HTML for each block (i.e. all the four edges
of a "box").

This would still work without Static::Simple.

-Nilson Santos F. Jr.

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