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Mar 4, 2009, 5:52 PM

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catamoose now or when?

Hello,

I'm starting a new web app project that I need to deploy in about
2 months. There will be ongoing updates to this app as time goes by.
I'm new to catalyst/moose/dbic but a long time Perl hacker.

Considering the above, would I be better off starting with 5.71 or
5.8?

TIA,
Elliot

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Mar 4, 2009, 6:24 PM

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Re: catamoose now or when? [In reply to]

On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 6:52 PM, Elliot Finley <lists [at] efinley> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I'm starting a new web app project that I need to deploy in about 2
> months. There will be ongoing updates to this app as time goes by. I'm new
> to catalyst/moose/dbic but a long time Perl hacker.
>
> Considering the above, would I be better off starting with 5.71 or 5.8?
>
> TIA,
> Elliot
>
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>

You can certainly Moosify your apps. 5.8 has a lot of fixes in both the
underlying engine stuff and coding conventions. I'd recommend 5.8 since it's
newer/shinier and relatively stable.

Please, do correct me if I'm incorrect though.

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arodland at comcast

Mar 4, 2009, 6:33 PM

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Re: catamoose now or when? [In reply to]

On Wednesday 04 March 2009 07:52:56 pm Elliot Finley wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I'm starting a new web app project that I need to deploy in about
> 2 months. There will be ongoing updates to this app as time goes by.
> I'm new to catalyst/moose/dbic but a long time Perl hacker.
>
> Considering the above, would I be better off starting with 5.71 or
> 5.8?

The 5.7 - 5.8 transition should require little to no rewriting of
application-level code, so I'd suggest sticking with the released 5.7 for
serious production. If you're inclined, though, and you have the resources,
you could set up a box with 5.8000_06 in parallel for testing -- that would
let you know about any hassles you might have upgrading in the future, as
well as letting you contribute bug reports on 5.8 to avoid said hassles. :)

Andrew

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diment at gmail

Mar 4, 2009, 6:40 PM

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Re: catamoose now or when? [In reply to]

On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 1:33 PM, Andrew Rodland <arodland [at] comcast> wrote:

> The 5.7 - 5.8 transition should require little to no rewriting of
> application-level code, so I'd suggest sticking with the released 5.7 for
> serious production. If you're inclined, though, and you have the resources,
> you could set up a box with 5.8000_06 in parallel for testing -- that would
> let you know about any hassles you might have upgrading in the future, as
> well as letting you contribute bug reports on 5.8 to avoid said hassles. :)

Rather than a separate box of VM you could also set up a separate
local::lib directory tree.

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Mar 6, 2009, 10:37 AM

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Re: catamoose now or when? [In reply to]

As one of the developers of Catalyst 5.8 and someone well-acquainted with
both Moose and Catalyst and the Moose port of Catalyst, I would advise you
to develop on 5.71, for 5.71 and keep an alternate test environment on which
to test against 5.8. Once 5.8 is released and is on CPAN, go ahead and start
developing for that. Until then, I wouldn't rush, back compat is there and
you really do not want to have an app require something that is not on CPAN.

On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 8:52 PM, Elliot Finley <lists [at] efinley> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I'm starting a new web app project that I need to deploy in about 2
> months. There will be ongoing updates to this app as time goes by. I'm new
> to catalyst/moose/dbic but a long time Perl hacker.
>
> Considering the above, would I be better off starting with 5.71 or 5.8?
>
> TIA,
> Elliot
>
> _______________________________________________
> List: Catalyst [at] lists
> Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst
> Searchable archive:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst [at] lists/
> Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
>

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Mar 6, 2009, 10:56 AM

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Re: catamoose now or when? [In reply to]

Thanks for responding Guillermo. I was hoping one of the developers
would respond. I'll roll it out on 5.71.

Thanks again,
Elliot

Guillermo Roditi wrote:
> As one of the developers of Catalyst 5.8 and someone well-acquainted
> with both Moose and Catalyst and the Moose port of Catalyst, I would
> advise you to develop on 5.71, for 5.71 and keep an alternate test
> environment on which to test against 5.8. Once 5.8 is released and is on
> CPAN, go ahead and start developing for that. Until then, I wouldn't
> rush, back compat is there and you really do not want to have an app
> require something that is not on CPAN.
>
> On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 8:52 PM, Elliot Finley <lists [at] efinley
> <mailto:lists [at] efinley>> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I'm starting a new web app project that I need to deploy in
> about 2 months. There will be ongoing updates to this app as time
> goes by. I'm new to catalyst/moose/dbic but a long time Perl hacker.
>
> Considering the above, would I be better off starting with 5.71
> or 5.8?
>
> TIA,
> Elliot
>

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