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michael at insulin-pumpers

Mar 13, 2002, 4:36 PM

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[Bricolage-General] bric 1.2.1 setup problem or bug

perl 5.6.1
mod_perl 1.26
apache 1.3.22
all modules are as specified or newer

server starts, hit on bric page allows login
change of password, addition of new user, etc....

logged in as admin user
create story
Title: demo 1 page
slug: demo1
story type: story
default for rest....
Click Create -- delay of exactly 300 seconds
changing the postgres checkpoint timeout to 30 does not alter this
so it's not a checkpoint timeout.

server finally returns the nav bar and a blank rest of page
clicking FIND + demo1 yields nothing, however:

the database contains the following

story -- id 1025
story_container_tile id 1025 + stuff
story_data_tile id 1025 + stuff
story_instance id 1025 + stuff
story_member id 1025 + stuff

I've enabled all the QA and DEbug stuff. It shows lots of stuff, but
nothing that obviously tells me there is some kind of error.

Any ideas??
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michael at insulin-pumpers

Mar 13, 2002, 5:12 PM

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Re: [Bricolage-General] bric 1.2.1 setup problem or bug [In reply to]

> Click Create -- delay of exactly 300 seconds
> changing the postgres checkpoint timeout to 30 does not alter this
> so it's not a checkpoint timeout.
>

followup... postgres 7.2

there is definetly a problem talking to the data base for this
transaction.

there is one postgress process hung at...

postgres: bricolage cmtcmt [local] idle in transaction

The "in transaction" part disappears after the 300 seconds
when bric returns the blank page + nav bar

The permissions look OK and are the same for all tables
{=,postgres=arwdRxt,bricolage=arwd}

stumped!
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david at kineticode

Mar 13, 2002, 5:20 PM

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Re: [Bricolage-General] bric 1.2.1 setup problem or bug [In reply to]

On Wed, 2002-03-13 at 17:12, Michael wrote:

> postgres: bricolage cmtcmt [local] idle in transaction

Huh. I wonder what that means. You might actually want to post to the
pgsql-general list about this one. I'm not sure why it would hang like
that...

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marlon at teamspi

Mar 13, 2002, 7:21 PM

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Re: [Bricolage-General] bric 1.2.1 setup problem or bug [In reply to]

>
> followup... postgres 7.2
>

Tried to use Pg7.2 but somehow Bric_1.3 was complaining on install.
Didn't really try bric_1.2.1 with Pg7.2. what i did was downgrade to
pg7.1.3 and bric_1.2.1. try that.

Is anyone here using Pg7.2?

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david at kineticode

Mar 13, 2002, 7:37 PM

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Re: [Bricolage-General] bric 1.2.1 setup problem or bug [In reply to]

On Wed, 2002-03-13 at 19:21, Marlon Bermas wrote:

> Tried to use Pg7.2 but somehow Bric_1.3 was complaining on install.
> Didn't really try bric_1.2.1 with Pg7.2. what i did was downgrade to
> pg7.1.3 and bric_1.2.1. try that.

Yep. Works fine for me. I did find a bug, though, in bric_pgimport. I
fixed it a while, back, but don't remember if that was before the 1.3.0
release.

You can either grab Bric from CVS, or wait for the 1.2.2 and 1.3.1
releases, which should be out over the next coupla days.

Or we could try to figure out what's wrong. What errors are you getting?

Regards,

David

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mark at geekhive

Mar 14, 2002, 3:00 AM

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Re: [Bricolage-General] bric 1.2.1 setup problem or bug [In reply to]

Marlon Bermas wrote:
> >
> > followup... postgres 7.2
> >
>
> Tried to use Pg7.2 but somehow Bric_1.3 was complaining on install.
> Didn't really try bric_1.2.1 with Pg7.2. what i did was downgrade to
> pg7.1.3 and bric_1.2.1. try that.
>
> Is anyone here using Pg7.2?

I am. I've had no issues with it so far. Are you using
make install to install the db, or bric_pgimport?

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michael at insulin-pumpers

Mar 14, 2002, 8:25 AM

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Re: [Bricolage-General] bric 1.2.1 setup problem or bug [In reply to]

> Marlon Bermas wrote:
> > >
> > > followup... postgres 7.2
> > >
> >
> > Tried to use Pg7.2 but somehow Bric_1.3 was complaining on install.
> > Didn't really try bric_1.2.1 with Pg7.2. what i did was downgrade to
> > pg7.1.3 and bric_1.2.1. try that.
> >
> > Is anyone here using Pg7.2?
>
> I am. I've had no issues with it so far. Are you using
> make install to install the db, or bric_pgimport?
>
Bric import...

sigh.... it appears to have something to do with browser dependency.

test setup:

host rambo -- slackware 8.0 w/linux 2.4.17 ,postgres & bricolage
host hoit -- w95 box, netscape 4.77
host pandora -- slackware 8.0 w/linux 2.4.17, netscape 4.77

when entering a story on HOIT, system hangs as previously described.
when entering a story on PANDORA, works fine.

This is really a pain.....
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sam at tregar

Mar 14, 2002, 9:14 AM

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Re: [Bricolage-General] bric 1.2.1 setup problem or bug [In reply to]

On Thu, 14 Mar 2002, Michael wrote:

> host rambo -- slackware 8.0 w/linux 2.4.17 ,postgres & bricolage
> host hoit -- w95 box, netscape 4.77
> host pandora -- slackware 8.0 w/linux 2.4.17, netscape 4.77
>
> when entering a story on HOIT, system hangs as previously described.
> when entering a story on PANDORA, works fine.

Have you tried IE or Mozilla on the win95 box? Those two have gotten the
most testing under Windows... Although I'm having trouble imagining what
a browser could do to cause a hung transaction in the database!

-sam

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michael at insulin-pumpers

Mar 14, 2002, 9:45 AM

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Re: [Bricolage-General] bric 1.2.1 setup problem or bug [In reply to]

> On Thu, 14 Mar 2002, Michael wrote:
>
> > host rambo -- slackware 8.0 w/linux 2.4.17 ,postgres & bricolage
> > host hoit -- w95 box, netscape 4.77
> > host pandora -- slackware 8.0 w/linux 2.4.17, netscape 4.77
> >
> > when entering a story on HOIT, system hangs as previously described.
> > when entering a story on PANDORA, works fine.
>
> Have you tried IE or Mozilla on the win95 box? Those two have
> gotten the most testing under Windows... Although I'm having
> trouble imagining what a browser could do to cause a hung
> transaction in the database!
>
> -sam
>
I'm having the same trouble as you imagining this :-( it is really
bizarre.

works on W95 with msie 5.50.4522.1800
does not work with w95 Netscape 4.77 -- this is very consistent,
happens every time.

works every time on the linux client Netscape 4.77
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sam at tregar

Mar 14, 2002, 9:55 AM

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Re: [Bricolage-General] bric 1.2.1 setup problem or bug [In reply to]

On Thu, 14 Mar 2002, Michael wrote:

> works on W95 with msie 5.50.4522.1800
> does not work with w95 Netscape 4.77 -- this is very consistent,
> happens every time.

Hmmm, ok. Here's what I'd like you to do:

- Add these two options to bricolage.conf:

DBI_DEBUG=1
DBI_CALL_TRACE=1

- Truncate your error_log.

- Restart your server.

- Hit the server with Nestscape 4.77 and do just enough to cause the
hang.

- Stop your server.

- Copy your error_log to netscape.out and truncate it.

- Start your server.

- Hit the server with IE and do the same exact thing you did with
Netsape 4.77.

- Stop your server.

- Send the results of this command to the list, compressed if it's
large:

diff -u error_log netscape.out

If something different is happening to the database with Netscape 4.77 and
IE then we'll see it there. Of course, we'll also see a bunch of trivial
difference (IDs mostly) but it might be revealing anyway.

-sam

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michael at insulin-pumpers

Mar 14, 2002, 11:24 AM

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Re: [Bricolage-General] bric 1.2.1 setup problem or bug [In reply to]

> On Thu, 14 Mar 2002, Michael wrote:
>
> > works on W95 with msie 5.50.4522.1800
> > does not work with w95 Netscape 4.77 -- this is very consistent,
> > happens every time.
>
> Hmmm, ok. Here's what I'd like you to do:
>
> - Add these two options to bricolage.conf:
>
> DBI_DEBUG=1
> DBI_CALL_TRACE=1
>

for each run, the following was done

stop server
rm ...../logs/bric_error_log
start server

hit entry page
login
click Story arrow
click new story

Title: netscape or msie
Slug: netscape or msie
Story Type: Story
Source: Internal Source (Rename)
Primary Category: /
Priority: Normal
Cover Date: whatever comes up

Click -- Create

netscape action:
immediate screen flicker,
Nav Bar is displayed
New Story bar + Help, MyAlerts, LogOut displayed
Properties Box with all text is shown, but the data entry boxes
themselves (including outlines) are missing
Submit and Create are displayed

after 300 seconds, screen than has Nav Bar only with the remainder of
the page completely blank.

During the 300 seconds, one of the postgres jobs appears as:
postgres: bricolage cmtcmt [local] idle in transaction

the other postgres jobs all say:
postgres: bricolage cmtcmt [local] idle

MSIE returns the second page of the story dialog

diff attached

Michael
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michael at insulin-pumpers

Mar 14, 2002, 11:24 AM

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sam at tregar

Mar 14, 2002, 12:01 PM

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On Thu, 14 Mar 2002, Michael wrote:

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Argh, my eyes! Could you try that again with the "diff -u" command? I
find normal diffs to be nearly unreadable.

-sma

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