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shipcowboy at netzero

Jul 22, 2002, 8:05 AM

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I'm attempting to run backhand on a mixed unix/win2k cluster. I can see =
my moderator and the 2k machine on the status page, but the win2k =
machine has 0/0 for ready/total servers. I've read the documentation on =
fixing this for unix (graceful restart of apache), but that doesn't seem =
to fix the problem for my windows server. Anyone else experiencing =
this?

Also, I can't seem to browse the cvs tree from the web. Keep getting an =
"Internal Server Error". =20

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jesus at omniti

Jul 22, 2002, 8:11 AM

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shipcowboy wrote:

> I'm attempting to run backhand on a mixed unix/win2k cluster. I can
> see my moderator and the 2k machine on the status page, but the win2k
> machine has 0/0 for ready/total servers. I've read the documentation
> on fixing this for unix (graceful restart of apache), but that doesn't
> seem to fix the problem for my windows server. Anyone else
> experiencing this?

I don't think that is supported at all with the NT broadcaster.
ready/total are private Apache statistics. As ntbhb isn't part of
Apache, it doesn't have access to these. While I am sure it could be
modified to find and publish that information, I am fairly certain that
the existing code make no effort to do so.

>
> Also, I can't seem to browse the cvs tree from the web. Keep getting
> an "Internal Server Error".

Hmm... doesn't look like viewcvs is working there anymore. I have a
mirror of the mod_backhand repository on my cvs server and viewcvs is
available for it:

http://cvs.omniti.com/cgi-bin/viewcvs/jesus/mod_backhand/

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robert.butler5 at verizon

Jul 22, 2002, 10:25 AM

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Hello All,

> shipcowboy wrote:
>
> > I'm attempting to run backhand on a mixed unix/win2k cluster. I can
> > see my moderator and the 2k machine on the status page, but the win2k
> > machine has 0/0 for ready/total servers. I've read the documentation
> > on fixing this for unix (graceful restart of apache), but that doesn't
> > seem to fix the problem for my windows server. Anyone else
> > experiencing this?
>
> I don't think that is supported at all with the NT broadcaster.
> ready/total are private Apache statistics. As ntbhb isn't part of
> Apache, it doesn't have access to these. While I am sure it could be
> modified to find and publish that information, I am fairly certain that
> the existing code make no effort to do so.
>

That is correct. Theo and I (the NT BHB developer) spoke about making the
ready/total 1/1 or 0/1 or something similar. I wanted to make it 1/1 since
NT always has 1 process available of 1 running process (when the web server
is up). However Theo thought 0/0 was better since when using IIS there
really isn't an apache process running. Theo is the subject matter expert
so I went with what he thought was best.

I definetly recommend running NTBHB as an IIS filter so that it comes up /
down with IIS. If your using Apache on NT, run NTBHB as a service (so it
comes up / down with the machine).

Good luck
Rob

jesus at omniti

Jul 23, 2002, 11:33 AM

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shipcowboy wrote:

>-------------
>[notice] (Type =>) = *{ backhand-redirection,
>backhand:backhand:backhand:/test.html, (null), (null) }
>[error] mod_backhand: MBCSP error(recv file descriptor)
>-------------
>
>
Sounds like the moderator is running but the unix socket directory is
set with the wrong permissions.

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Theo Schlossnagle
Principal Consultant
OmniTI Computer Consulting, Inc. -- http://www.omniti.com/
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shipcowboy at netzero

Jul 23, 2002, 11:33 AM

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This makes sense now. Sorry for being confused.

I'm now having an unrelated problem. I seem to be able to successfully
HTTPRedirect (by IP and name) from the moderator to another unix or NT
machine, but I'm not able to proxy! How is this possible?

I get the following from error_log:
-------------
[notice] (Type =>) = *{ backhand-redirection,
backhand:backhand:backhand:/test.html, (null), (null) }
[error] mod_backhand: MBCSP error(recv file descriptor)
-------------

Backhand starts over after this error and executes (successfully) all of the
candidacy functions and then errors again. After a few of these errors, the
[notice] line gets an additional "backhand:backhand:". This continues until
I stop apache, with big error_log resulting.

Another quirky thing is on the HTTPRedirect, sometimes the browser address
doesn't change to reflect the redirect, but the page content is definitely
what should be displayed and I get the following in the log:
-------------
[error] HTTP Redirection by IP [2]
-------------
That's all the log gives me. Is this really an error or just an occasional
nuisance?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Theo Schlossnagle" <jesus [at] omniti>
To: <backhand-users [at] lists>
Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 11:11 AM
Subject: Re: [m_b_users] NT Backhand Broadcaster 0 servers

> shipcowboy wrote:
>
> > I'm attempting to run backhand on a mixed unix/win2k cluster. I can
> > see my moderator and the 2k machine on the status page, but the win2k
> > machine has 0/0 for ready/total servers. I've read the documentation
> > on fixing this for unix (graceful restart of apache), but that doesn't
> > seem to fix the problem for my windows server. Anyone else
> > experiencing this?
>
> I don't think that is supported at all with the NT broadcaster.
> ready/total are private Apache statistics. As ntbhb isn't part of
> Apache, it doesn't have access to these. While I am sure it could be
> modified to find and publish that information, I am fairly certain that
> the existing code make no effort to do so.
>
> >
> > Also, I can't seem to browse the cvs tree from the web. Keep getting
> > an "Internal Server Error".
>
>
> Hmm... doesn't look like viewcvs is working there anymore. I have a
> mirror of the mod_backhand repository on my cvs server and viewcvs is
> available for it:
>
> http://cvs.omniti.com/cgi-bin/viewcvs/jesus/mod_backhand/
>
> --
> Theo Schlossnagle
> Principal Consultant
> OmniTI Computer Consulting, Inc. -- http://www.omniti.com/
> Phone: +1 301 776 6376 Fax: +1 410 880 4879
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shipcowboy at netzero

Jul 23, 2002, 12:44 PM

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I set the UnixSocketDir permissions to 777 (just to prove it's not a
permissions issue) and I get the same error.
I know that the arriba file is put into this directory, but what else should
be there?

Here's what I see:
drwxrwxrwx 12 ownername groupname 96 Jul 23 14:56 .
-rw-r----- 1 ownername groupname 0 Jul 23 14:56 bparent
-rw------- 1 ownername groupname 6 Jul 23 14:55 mod_backhand-Arriba

----- Original Message -----
From: "Theo Schlossnagle" <jesus [at] omniti>
To: <backhand-users [at] lists>
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 2:33 PM
Subject: Re: [m_b_users] NT Backhand Broadcaster 0 servers

> shipcowboy wrote:
>
> >-------------
> >[notice] (Type =>) = *{ backhand-redirection,
> >backhand:backhand:backhand:/test.html, (null), (null) }
> >[error] mod_backhand: MBCSP error(recv file descriptor)
> >-------------
> >
> >
> Sounds like the moderator is running but the unix socket directory is
> set with the wrong permissions.
>
> --
> Theo Schlossnagle
> Principal Consultant
> OmniTI Computer Consulting, Inc. -- http://www.omniti.com/
> Phone: +1 301 776 6376 Fax: +1 410 880 4879
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>
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>
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jesus at omniti

Jul 23, 2002, 1:09 PM

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Mine looks like this:

-rw------- 1 root root 6 Aug 6 2001 mod_backhand-Arriba
srwxr-xr-x 1 nobody nobody 0 Jul 17 10:28 bparent
srwx------ 1 nobody nobody 0 Aug 29 2001 bchild-21245

followed by many many more bchild sockets -- they are of the form bchild-PID

shipcowboy wrote:

>I set the UnixSocketDir permissions to 777 (just to prove it's not a
>permissions issue) and I get the same error.
>I know that the arriba file is put into this directory, but what else should
>be there?
>
>Here's what I see:
>drwxrwxrwx 12 ownername groupname 96 Jul 23 14:56 .
>-rw-r----- 1 ownername groupname 0 Jul 23 14:56 bparent
>-rw------- 1 ownername groupname 6 Jul 23 14:55 mod_backhand-Arriba
>
>
--
Theo Schlossnagle
Principal Consultant
OmniTI Computer Consulting, Inc. -- http://www.omniti.com/
Phone: +1 301 776 6376 Fax: +1 410 880 4879
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shipcowboy at netzero

Jul 29, 2002, 7:43 AM

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Okay, maybe this sheads light on my problem. I don't see any bchild sockets
in the directory. What could cause these from not being created?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Theo Schlossnagle" <jesus [at] omniti>
To: <backhand-users [at] lists>
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 4:09 PM
Subject: Re: [m_b_users] NT Backhand Broadcaster 0 servers

> Mine looks like this:
>
> -rw------- 1 root root 6 Aug 6 2001
mod_backhand-Arriba
> srwxr-xr-x 1 nobody nobody 0 Jul 17 10:28 bparent
> srwx------ 1 nobody nobody 0 Aug 29 2001 bchild-21245
>
> followed by many many more bchild sockets -- they are of the form
bchild-PID
>
>
> shipcowboy wrote:
>
> >I set the UnixSocketDir permissions to 777 (just to prove it's not a
> >permissions issue) and I get the same error.
> >I know that the arriba file is put into this directory, but what else
should
> >be there?
> >
> >Here's what I see:
> >drwxrwxrwx 12 ownername groupname 96 Jul 23 14:56 .
> >-rw-r----- 1 ownername groupname 0 Jul 23 14:56 bparent
> >-rw------- 1 ownername groupname 6 Jul 23 14:55 mod_backhand-Arriba
> >

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