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kim+j2 at alleroedderne

Jul 21, 2007, 6:46 AM

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Hi,

I wonder if you have a method in your build-system, so that when one
package get rebuild, another does so too, like for the kernel to the
kmdl's.

If so could you please set it so that when dovecot leads to a rebuild of
dovecot-sieve? (dovecot-sieve depends on a specific version of dovecot)

Regards,
Kim

Axel.Thimm at ATrpms

Jul 21, 2007, 9:12 AM

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Hi,

On Sat, Jul 21, 2007 at 03:46:23PM +0200, Kim Bisgaard wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I wonder if you have a method in your build-system, so that when one
> package get rebuild, another does so too, like for the kernel to the
> kmdl's.
>
> If so could you please set it so that when dovecot leads to a rebuild of
> dovecot-sieve? (dovecot-sieve depends on a specific version of dovecot)

It's a manual decision/procedure. It was said that it should had been
neccessary to rebuild dovecot-sieve in 1.0.x, but judging from your
mail it seems to have to. Or were you refering to d-s 1.0.2? That's a
different story and it is being built and deliveered seperately.

At any rate new d-s packages will hit the repo later today. :)

> Regards,
> Kim
>
>
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kim+j2 at alleroedderne

Jul 21, 2007, 9:24 AM

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Axel Thimm wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Sat, Jul 21, 2007 at 03:46:23PM +0200, Kim Bisgaard wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I wonder if you have a method in your build-system, so that when one
>> package get rebuild, another does so too, like for the kernel to the
>> kmdl's.
>>
>> If so could you please set it so that when dovecot leads to a rebuild of
>> dovecot-sieve? (dovecot-sieve depends on a specific version of dovecot)
>
> It's a manual decision/procedure. It was said that it should had been
> neccessary to rebuild dovecot-sieve in 1.0.x, but judging from your
> mail it seems to have to. Or were you refering to d-s 1.0.2? That's a
> different story and it is being built and deliveered seperately.
It was just to minimize the window where dovecot would upgrade, but not
install, because of d-s dependency on the old package. Same old problem
as with kernel upgrades not working because new kmdl-packages are not
yet available.
>
> At any rate new d-s packages will hit the repo later today. :)
Thanks!

Are you by the way also doing a ivtv-1.0.0 for the new f7 2.6.22 kernels?

Regards,
Kim

Axel.Thimm at ATrpms

Jul 22, 2007, 6:41 AM

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On Sat, Jul 21, 2007 at 06:24:32PM +0200, Kim Bisgaard wrote:
> Axel Thimm wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > On Sat, Jul 21, 2007 at 03:46:23PM +0200, Kim Bisgaard wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I wonder if you have a method in your build-system, so that when one
> >> package get rebuild, another does so too, like for the kernel to the
> >> kmdl's.
> >>
> >> If so could you please set it so that when dovecot leads to a rebuild of
> >> dovecot-sieve? (dovecot-sieve depends on a specific version of dovecot)
> >
> > It's a manual decision/procedure. It was said that it should had been
> > neccessary to rebuild dovecot-sieve in 1.0.x, but judging from your
> > mail it seems to have to. Or were you refering to d-s 1.0.2? That's a
> > different story and it is being built and deliveered seperately.

> It was just to minimize the window where dovecot would upgrade, but not
> install, because of d-s dependency on the old package. Same old problem
> as with kernel upgrades not working because new kmdl-packages are not
> yet available.

But the d-s to d dependency is not that strict as the kmdl->kernel.

> > At any rate new d-s packages will hit the repo later today. :)
> Thanks!
>
> Are you by the way also doing a ivtv-1.0.0 for the new f7 2.6.22 kernels?

Yes, but the ivtv kmdl is part of the kernel now.
--
Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net
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anmar at anmar

Jul 23, 2007, 5:50 AM

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Axel Thimm escribi?:
> On Sat, Jul 21, 2007 at 06:24:32PM +0200, Kim Bisgaard wrote:
>> Axel Thimm wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jul 21, 2007 at 03:46:23PM +0200, Kim Bisgaard wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I wonder if you have a method in your build-system, so that when one
>>>> package get rebuild, another does so too, like for the kernel to the
>>>> kmdl's.
>>>>
>>>> If so could you please set it so that when dovecot leads to a rebuild of
>>>> dovecot-sieve? (dovecot-sieve depends on a specific version of dovecot)
>>> It's a manual decision/procedure. It was said that it should had been
>>> neccessary to rebuild dovecot-sieve in 1.0.x, but judging from your
>>> mail it seems to have to. Or were you refering to d-s 1.0.2? That's a
>>> different story and it is being built and deliveered seperately.
>
>> It was just to minimize the window where dovecot would upgrade, but not
>> install, because of d-s dependency on the old package. Same old problem
>> as with kernel upgrades not working because new kmdl-packages are not
>> yet available.
>
> But the d-s to d dependency is not that strict as the kmdl->kernel.

Now that we're approaching dovecot 1.1 release, it might be a good idea
to make that dependency more strict (<1.1) just to make sure dovecot 1.1
does not get upgraded until dovecot-sieve 1.1 is available.

Timo has said that there will be a 1.0.3 soon
(http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.imap.dovecot/23302), so that
might be a good moment to do so :)

Regards,
--
Angel Marin
http://anmar.eu.org/

Axel.Thimm at ATrpms

Jul 23, 2007, 7:10 AM

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On Mon, Jul 23, 2007 at 02:50:15PM +0200, Angel Marin wrote:
> Axel Thimm escribi?:
> > On Sat, Jul 21, 2007 at 06:24:32PM +0200, Kim Bisgaard wrote:
> >> Axel Thimm wrote:
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> On Sat, Jul 21, 2007 at 03:46:23PM +0200, Kim Bisgaard wrote:
> >>>> Hi,
> >>>>
> >>>> I wonder if you have a method in your build-system, so that when one
> >>>> package get rebuild, another does so too, like for the kernel to the
> >>>> kmdl's.
> >>>>
> >>>> If so could you please set it so that when dovecot leads to a rebuild of
> >>>> dovecot-sieve? (dovecot-sieve depends on a specific version of dovecot)
> >>> It's a manual decision/procedure. It was said that it should had been
> >>> neccessary to rebuild dovecot-sieve in 1.0.x, but judging from your
> >>> mail it seems to have to. Or were you refering to d-s 1.0.2? That's a
> >>> different story and it is being built and deliveered seperately.
> >
> >> It was just to minimize the window where dovecot would upgrade, but not
> >> install, because of d-s dependency on the old package. Same old problem
> >> as with kernel upgrades not working because new kmdl-packages are not
> >> yet available.
> >
> > But the d-s to d dependency is not that strict as the kmdl->kernel.
>
> Now that we're approaching dovecot 1.1 release, it might be a good idea
> to make that dependency more strict (<1.1) just to make sure dovecot 1.1
> does not get upgraded until dovecot-sieve 1.1 is available.

Will dovecot 1.1 break the ABI to dovecot-sieve?

> Timo has said that there will be a 1.0.3 soon
> (http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.imap.dovecot/23302), so that
> might be a good moment to do so :)
>
> Regards,

--
Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net
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anmar at anmar

Jul 23, 2007, 8:11 AM

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Axel Thimm escribi?:
> On Mon, Jul 23, 2007 at 02:50:15PM +0200, Angel Marin wrote:
>> Axel Thimm escribi?:
>>> On Sat, Jul 21, 2007 at 06:24:32PM +0200, Kim Bisgaard wrote:
>>>> Axel Thimm wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Jul 21, 2007 at 03:46:23PM +0200, Kim Bisgaard wrote:
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I wonder if you have a method in your build-system, so that when one
>>>>>> package get rebuild, another does so too, like for the kernel to the
>>>>>> kmdl's.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If so could you please set it so that when dovecot leads to a rebuild of
>>>>>> dovecot-sieve? (dovecot-sieve depends on a specific version of dovecot)
>>>>> It's a manual decision/procedure. It was said that it should had been
>>>>> neccessary to rebuild dovecot-sieve in 1.0.x, but judging from your
>>>>> mail it seems to have to. Or were you refering to d-s 1.0.2? That's a
>>>>> different story and it is being built and deliveered seperately.
>>>> It was just to minimize the window where dovecot would upgrade, but not
>>>> install, because of d-s dependency on the old package. Same old problem
>>>> as with kernel upgrades not working because new kmdl-packages are not
>>>> yet available.
>>> But the d-s to d dependency is not that strict as the kmdl->kernel.
>> Now that we're approaching dovecot 1.1 release, it might be a good idea
>> to make that dependency more strict (<1.1) just to make sure dovecot 1.1
>> does not get upgraded until dovecot-sieve 1.1 is available.
>
> Will dovecot 1.1 break the ABI to dovecot-sieve?

Can't say for sure, but given the big changes there have been, I bet it
does (I recall Timo saying that current dovecot-sieve wouldn't even
compile with the released alpha, so it may be hint). I'll give it a
deeper look and do some tests later though.

--
Angel Marin
http://anmar.eu.org/

anmar at anmar

Jul 23, 2007, 1:53 PM

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Axel Thimm escribi?:
> On Mon, Jul 23, 2007 at 02:50:15PM +0200, Angel Marin wrote:
>> Axel Thimm escribi?:
>>> On Sat, Jul 21, 2007 at 06:24:32PM +0200, Kim Bisgaard wrote:
>>>> Axel Thimm wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Jul 21, 2007 at 03:46:23PM +0200, Kim Bisgaard wrote:
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I wonder if you have a method in your build-system, so that when one
>>>>>> package get rebuild, another does so too, like for the kernel to the
>>>>>> kmdl's.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If so could you please set it so that when dovecot leads to a rebuild of
>>>>>> dovecot-sieve? (dovecot-sieve depends on a specific version of dovecot)
>>>>> It's a manual decision/procedure. It was said that it should had been
>>>>> neccessary to rebuild dovecot-sieve in 1.0.x, but judging from your
>>>>> mail it seems to have to. Or were you refering to d-s 1.0.2? That's a
>>>>> different story and it is being built and deliveered seperately.
>>>> It was just to minimize the window where dovecot would upgrade, but not
>>>> install, because of d-s dependency on the old package. Same old problem
>>>> as with kernel upgrades not working because new kmdl-packages are not
>>>> yet available.
>>> But the d-s to d dependency is not that strict as the kmdl->kernel.
>> Now that we're approaching dovecot 1.1 release, it might be a good idea
>> to make that dependency more strict (<1.1) just to make sure dovecot 1.1
>> does not get upgraded until dovecot-sieve 1.1 is available.
>
> Will dovecot 1.1 break the ABI to dovecot-sieve?

Deliver from 1.1.alpha1 with dovecot-sieve 1.0.2 (from current rpm)
segfaults at sieve-cmu.c:640 (a call to a lib-storage function). So yes,
it breaks it.

--
Angel Marin
http://anmar.eu.org/

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