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narendra.verma at impetus

May 8, 2008, 7:55 AM

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balancer-manager gui issue

Hi all;
I am using Apache2.2.8 as a load balancer (using mod_proxy) and tomcat5.5 as backend servers.
Now every thing is working fine but issue is in balancer-manager gui of apache.

For this I configured:
Location /balancer-manager>
SetHandler balancer-manager
Order Deny,Allow
Deny from all
# allow from particular host from where an user can access this balancer-manager GUI.
Allow from 192.168.99.29
</Location>

I write steps here where issue is coming :

1. Both tomcats are running.
2. Open balancer manager gui
3. This shows status properly
means 'ok'
4. if I close one tomcat than for this it shows
status 'err'
then fine
5. if I again up tomcat that I closed recently
and I refresh balancer-manager gui then again it shows status 'err' for that tomcat .
even I open a new browser and hit to balancer manager gui still it gives status 'err'.


So issue is if I up the tomcat then this gui must change the status,
How this can be done or is it issue related to balancer manager gui.
Or can I change somewhat related to it.

Please reply its a production issue..

Thanks
Narendra


sergeyfd at gmail

May 8, 2008, 8:03 AM

Post #2 of 7 (126 views)
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Re: balancer-manager gui issue [In reply to]

A lot of time ago I created a bug report
https://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=42668 for something
that looks like the same problem. You can add your information there
and probably we'll see an answer from the developers.

On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 8:55 AM, Narendra Verma
<narendra.verma[at]impetus.co.in> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Hi all;
>
> I am using Apache2.2.8 as a load balancer (using mod_proxy) and tomcat5.5 as
> backend servers.
>
> Now every thing is working fine but issue is in balancer-manager gui of
> apache.
>
>
>
> For this I configured:
>
> Location /balancer-manager>
>
> SetHandler balancer-manager
>
> Order Deny,Allow
>
> Deny from all
>
> # allow from particular host from where an user can access this
> balancer-manager GUI.
>
> Allow from 192.168.99.29
>
> </Location>
>
>
>
> I write steps here where issue is coming :
>
>
>
> 1. Both tomcats are running.
>
> 2. Open balancer manager gui
>
> 3. This shows status properly
>
> means 'ok'
>
> 4. if I close one tomcat than for this it shows
>
> status 'err'
>
> then fine
>
> 5. if I again up tomcat that I closed recently
>
> and I refresh balancer-manager gui then again it shows status 'err' for
> that tomcat .
>
> even I open a new browser and hit to balancer manager gui still it gives
> status 'err'.
>
>
>
>
>
> So issue is if I up the tomcat then this gui must change the status,
>
> How this can be done or is it issue related to balancer manager gui.
>
> Or can I change somewhat related to it.
>
>
>
> Please reply its a production issue..
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Narendra
>
>



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linusali at gmail

May 12, 2008, 5:35 AM

Post #3 of 7 (102 views)
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Re: balancer-manager gui issue [In reply to]

Hi there,

The answer is simple. The Apache balancer module will not check if the
tomcat is operational or not until it gets a new request for the
tomcat or backend servers.

There is no watch dog facility like those seen in hardware load
balancers in Apache.

Cheers.
Salih
On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 6:55 PM, Narendra Verma
<narendra.verma[at]impetus.co.in> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Hi all;
>
> I am using Apache2.2.8 as a load balancer (using mod_proxy) and tomcat5.5 as
> backend servers.
>
> Now every thing is working fine but issue is in balancer-manager gui of
> apache.
>
>
>
> For this I configured:
>
> Location /balancer-manager>
>
> SetHandler balancer-manager
>
> Order Deny,Allow
>
> Deny from all
>
> # allow from particular host from where an user can access this
> balancer-manager GUI.
>
> Allow from 192.168.99.29
>
> </Location>
>
>
>
> I write steps here where issue is coming :
>
>
>
> 1. Both tomcats are running.
>
> 2. Open balancer manager gui
>
> 3. This shows status properly
>
> means 'ok'
>
> 4. if I close one tomcat than for this it shows
>
> status 'err'
>
> then fine
>
> 5. if I again up tomcat that I closed recently
>
> and I refresh balancer-manager gui then again it shows status 'err' for
> that tomcat .
>
> even I open a new browser and hit to balancer manager gui still it gives
> status 'err'.
>
>
>
>
>
> So issue is if I up the tomcat then this gui must change the status,
>
> How this can be done or is it issue related to balancer manager gui.
>
> Or can I change somewhat related to it.
>
>
>
> Please reply its a production issue..
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Narendra
>
>

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sergeyfd at gmail

May 12, 2008, 7:09 AM

Post #4 of 7 (102 views)
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Re: balancer-manager gui issue [In reply to]

That is well understood, but why does balance-manager reports "Ok"
status for members that failed on previous requests?

On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 6:35 AM, Mohammed Salih <linusali[at]gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> The answer is simple. The Apache balancer module will not check if the
> tomcat is operational or not until it gets a new request for the
> tomcat or backend servers.
>
> There is no watch dog facility like those seen in hardware load
> balancers in Apache.
>
> Cheers.
> Salih
>
> On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 6:55 PM, Narendra Verma
> <narendra.verma[at]impetus.co.in> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> > Hi all;
> >
> > I am using Apache2.2.8 as a load balancer (using mod_proxy) and tomcat5.5 as
> > backend servers.
> >
> > Now every thing is working fine but issue is in balancer-manager gui of
> > apache.
> >
> >
> >
> > For this I configured:
> >
> > Location /balancer-manager>
> >
> > SetHandler balancer-manager
> >
> > Order Deny,Allow
> >
> > Deny from all
> >
> > # allow from particular host from where an user can access this
> > balancer-manager GUI.
> >
> > Allow from 192.168.99.29
> >
> > </Location>
> >
> >
> >
> > I write steps here where issue is coming :
> >
> >
> >
> > 1. Both tomcats are running.
> >
> > 2. Open balancer manager gui
> >
> > 3. This shows status properly
> >
> > means 'ok'
> >
> > 4. if I close one tomcat than for this it shows
> >
> > status 'err'
> >
> > then fine
> >
> > 5. if I again up tomcat that I closed recently
> >
> > and I refresh balancer-manager gui then again it shows status 'err' for
> > that tomcat .
> >
> > even I open a new browser and hit to balancer manager gui still it gives
> > status 'err'.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > So issue is if I up the tomcat then this gui must change the status,
> >
> > How this can be done or is it issue related to balancer manager gui.
> >
> > Or can I change somewhat related to it.
> >
> >
> >
> > Please reply its a production issue..
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Narendra
> >
> >
>
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linusali at gmail

May 12, 2008, 10:30 AM

Post #5 of 7 (100 views)
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Re: balancer-manager gui issue [In reply to]

If that is the case then it is a problem. But I think you didn't go through
the email posted by Mr. Narendra

Cheers

On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 6:09 PM, Serge Dubrouski <sergeyfd[at]gmail.com> wrote:

> That is well understood, but why does balance-manager reports "Ok"
> status for members that failed on previous requests?
>
> On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 6:35 AM, Mohammed Salih <linusali[at]gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Hi there,
> >
> > The answer is simple. The Apache balancer module will not check if the
> > tomcat is operational or not until it gets a new request for the
> > tomcat or backend servers.
> >
> > There is no watch dog facility like those seen in hardware load
> > balancers in Apache.
> >
> > Cheers.
> > Salih
> >
> > On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 6:55 PM, Narendra Verma
> > <narendra.verma[at]impetus.co.in> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > > Hi all;
> > >
> > > I am using Apache2.2.8 as a load balancer (using mod_proxy) and
> tomcat5.5 as
> > > backend servers.
> > >
> > > Now every thing is working fine but issue is in balancer-manager gui
> of
> > > apache.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > For this I configured:
> > >
> > > Location /balancer-manager>
> > >
> > > SetHandler balancer-manager
> > >
> > > Order Deny,Allow
> > >
> > > Deny from all
> > >
> > > # allow from particular host from where an user can access this
> > > balancer-manager GUI.
> > >
> > > Allow from 192.168.99.29
> > >
> > > </Location>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I write steps here where issue is coming :
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 1. Both tomcats are running.
> > >
> > > 2. Open balancer manager gui
> > >
> > > 3. This shows status properly
> > >
> > > means 'ok'
> > >
> > > 4. if I close one tomcat than for this it shows
> > >
> > > status 'err'
> > >
> > > then fine
> > >
> > > 5. if I again up tomcat that I closed recently
> > >
> > > and I refresh balancer-manager gui then again it shows status
> 'err' for
> > > that tomcat .
> > >
> > > even I open a new browser and hit to balancer manager gui still it
> gives
> > > status 'err'.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > So issue is if I up the tomcat then this gui must change the status,
> > >
> > > How this can be done or is it issue related to balancer manager gui.
> > >
> > > Or can I change somewhat related to it.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Please reply its a production issue..
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Narendra
> > >
> > >
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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> Project.
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> >
>
>
>
> --
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>
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sergeyfd at gmail

May 12, 2008, 10:52 AM

Post #6 of 7 (100 views)
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Re: balancer-manager gui issue [In reply to]

He's talking almost the same problem: balancer-manager doesn't reflect
a correct status for a given balancer member.

On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 11:30 AM, Mohammed Salih <linusali[at]gmail.com> wrote:
> If that is the case then it is a problem. But I think you didn't go through
> the email posted by Mr. Narendra
>
> Cheers
>
>
>
> On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 6:09 PM, Serge Dubrouski <sergeyfd[at]gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > That is well understood, but why does balance-manager reports "Ok"
> > status for members that failed on previous requests?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 6:35 AM, Mohammed Salih <linusali[at]gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > Hi there,
> > >
> > > The answer is simple. The Apache balancer module will not check if the
> > > tomcat is operational or not until it gets a new request for the
> > > tomcat or backend servers.
> > >
> > > There is no watch dog facility like those seen in hardware load
> > > balancers in Apache.
> > >
> > > Cheers.
> > > Salih
> > >
> > > On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 6:55 PM, Narendra Verma
> > > <narendra.verma[at]impetus.co.in> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hi all;
> > > >
> > > > I am using Apache2.2.8 as a load balancer (using mod_proxy) and
> tomcat5.5 as
> > > > backend servers.
> > > >
> > > > Now every thing is working fine but issue is in balancer-manager gui
> of
> > > > apache.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > For this I configured:
> > > >
> > > > Location /balancer-manager>
> > > >
> > > > SetHandler balancer-manager
> > > >
> > > > Order Deny,Allow
> > > >
> > > > Deny from all
> > > >
> > > > # allow from particular host from where an user can access this
> > > > balancer-manager GUI.
> > > >
> > > > Allow from 192.168.99.29
> > > >
> > > > </Location>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I write steps here where issue is coming :
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 1. Both tomcats are running.
> > > >
> > > > 2. Open balancer manager gui
> > > >
> > > > 3. This shows status properly
> > > >
> > > > means 'ok'
> > > >
> > > > 4. if I close one tomcat than for this it shows
> > > >
> > > > status 'err'
> > > >
> > > > then fine
> > > >
> > > > 5. if I again up tomcat that I closed recently
> > > >
> > > > and I refresh balancer-manager gui then again it shows status
> 'err' for
> > > > that tomcat .
> > > >
> > > > even I open a new browser and hit to balancer manager gui still it
> gives
> > > > status 'err'.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > So issue is if I up the tomcat then this gui must change the status,
> > > >
> > > > How this can be done or is it issue related to balancer manager gui.
> > > >
> > > > Or can I change somewhat related to it.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Please reply its a production issue..
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > > Narendra
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
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narendra.verma at impetus

May 12, 2008, 9:45 PM

Post #7 of 7 (97 views)
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RE: balancer-manager gui issue [In reply to]

Hi Salih,
Thanks for your reply, Yes it makes sense. Now I got answer.

cheers
Narenera

-----Original Message-----
From: Mohammed Salih [mailto:linusali[at]gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 11:01 PM
To: users[at]httpd.apache.org
Subject: Re: [users[at]httpd] balancer-manager gui issue

If that is the case then it is a problem. But I think you didn't go through the email posted by Mr. Narendra

Cheers
On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 6:09 PM, Serge Dubrouski <sergeyfd[at]gmail.com<mailto:sergeyfd[at]gmail.com>> wrote:
That is well understood, but why does balance-manager reports "Ok"
status for members that failed on previous requests?

On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 6:35 AM, Mohammed Salih <linusali[at]gmail.com<mailto:linusali[at]gmail.com>> wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> The answer is simple. The Apache balancer module will not check if the
> tomcat is operational or not until it gets a new request for the
> tomcat or backend servers.
>
> There is no watch dog facility like those seen in hardware load
> balancers in Apache.
>
> Cheers.
> Salih
>
> On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 6:55 PM, Narendra Verma
> <narendra.verma[at]impetus.co.in<mailto:narendra.verma[at]impetus.co.in>> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> > Hi all;
> >
> > I am using Apache2.2.8 as a load balancer (using mod_proxy) and tomcat5.5 as
> > backend servers.
> >
> > Now every thing is working fine but issue is in balancer-manager gui of
> > apache.
> >
> >
> >
> > For this I configured:
> >
> > Location /balancer-manager>
> >
> > SetHandler balancer-manager
> >
> > Order Deny,Allow
> >
> > Deny from all
> >
> > # allow from particular host from where an user can access this
> > balancer-manager GUI.
> >
> > Allow from 192.168.99.29<http://192.168.99.29>
> >
> > </Location>
> >
> >
> >
> > I write steps here where issue is coming :
> >
> >
> >
> > 1. Both tomcats are running.
> >
> > 2. Open balancer manager gui
> >
> > 3. This shows status properly
> >
> > means 'ok'
> >
> > 4. if I close one tomcat than for this it shows
> >
> > status 'err'
> >
> > then fine
> >
> > 5. if I again up tomcat that I closed recently
> >
> > and I refresh balancer-manager gui then again it shows status 'err' for
> > that tomcat .
> >
> > even I open a new browser and hit to balancer manager gui still it gives
> > status 'err'.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > So issue is if I up the tomcat then this gui must change the status,
> >
> > How this can be done or is it issue related to balancer manager gui.
> >
> > Or can I change somewhat related to it.
> >
> >
> >
> > Please reply its a production issue..
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Narendra
> >
> >
>
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