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Jul 12, 2013, 7:01 AM

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curious

Hello,

Until this morning, there were comments attached at the end end of http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.4/install.html (last one was only 3 days old)

And yet, they have all disappeared ?

Lucien Gentis
Service Informatique - Faculté de Médecine de Nancy
Tél : 0383683062
Email : lucien.gentis [at] univ-lorraine

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Jul 12, 2013, 7:11 AM

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Re: curious [In reply to]

On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 10:01 AM, Lucien Gentis
<lucien.gentis [at] univ-lorraine> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Until this morning, there were comments attached at the end end of
> http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.4/install.html (last one was only 3 days old)
>
> And yet, they have all disappeared ?

I purged them today. Most was not feedback on the manual. I fixed one
item and checked the existing content for 1 or 2 items.

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Jul 12, 2013, 7:52 AM

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Re: curious [In reply to]

Yes, most people have no interest to manual feedback, and they must write to the users mailing list

So I tried to follow the notice that says : "Questions on how to manage the Apache HTTP Server should be directed at either our IRC channel, #httpd, on Freenode, or sent to our mailing lists"
I click on "Mailing Lists" and arrive at "http://httpd.apache.org/lists.html"
Here, I click on "User Support and Discussion"
And here, no link to write to the list, nor subscribing to it

Le 12 juil. 2013 à 16:11, Eric Covener a écrit :

> On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 10:01 AM, Lucien Gentis
> <lucien.gentis [at] univ-lorraine> wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> Until this morning, there were comments attached at the end end of
>> http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.4/install.html (last one was only 3 days old)
>>
>> And yet, they have all disappeared ?
>
> I purged them today. Most was not feedback on the manual. I fixed one
> item and checked the existing content for 1 or 2 items.
>
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Lucien Gentis
Service Informatique - Faculté de Médecine de Nancy
Tél : 0383683062
Email : lucien.gentis [at] univ-lorraine

covener at gmail

Jul 12, 2013, 8:04 AM

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Re: curious [In reply to]

On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Lucien Gentis
<lucien.gentis [at] univ-lorraine> wrote:
> Yes, most people have no interest to manual feedback, and they must write to
> the users mailing list
>
> So I tried to follow the notice that says : "Questions on how to manage the
> Apache HTTP Server should be directed at either our IRC channel, #httpd, on
> Freenode, or sent to our mailing lists"
> I click on "Mailing Lists" and arrive at
> "http://httpd.apache.org/lists.html"
> Here, I click on "User Support and Discussion"
> And here, no link to write to the list, nor subscribing to it

For some reason, there is a confusing pair of links to English and
German where the real content is. I think English should just be
in-line there, or we should have a duplicated table for the
subscribe/etc under the English link Maybe it was emphasized better
before the conversion to markdown?

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Jul 12, 2013, 8:07 AM

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Re: curious [In reply to]

On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Lucien Gentis
<lucien.gentis [at] univ-lorraine> wrote:
> Yes, most people have no interest to manual feedback, and they must write to
> the users mailing list

My own 2 cents -- There is some valuable feedback on the manual, and
some interesting questions/problems that I look at it in the comments.
But most of it is basic configuration questions that I won't respond
to in the comments meaningfully (sometimes add the canned comment,
sometimes just delete if it looks like the person did absolutely no
homework).

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Jul 13, 2013, 7:41 AM

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Re: curious [In reply to]

Le 12/07/2013 17:04, Eric Covener a écrit :
> On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Lucien Gentis
> <lucien.gentis [at] univ-lorraine> wrote:
>> Yes, most people have no interest to manual feedback, and they must write to
>> the users mailing list
>>
>> So I tried to follow the notice that says : "Questions on how to manage the
>> Apache HTTP Server should be directed at either our IRC channel, #httpd, on
>> Freenode, or sent to our mailing lists"
>> I click on "Mailing Lists" and arrive at
>> "http://httpd.apache.org/lists.html"
>> Here, I click on "User Support and Discussion"
>> And here, no link to write to the list, nor subscribing to it
> For some reason, there is a confusing pair of links to English and
> German where the real content is. I think English should just be
> in-line there, or we should have a duplicated table for the
> subscribe/etc under the English link Maybe it was emphasized better
> before the conversion to markdown?
>
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> For additional commands, e-mail: docs-help [at] httpd
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And effectively, if you click yet on "English list
<http://httpd.apache.org/userslist.html>", you get all informations needed.

So, (and it's just a suggestion), I think page
http://httpd.apache.org/lists.html#http-users should contain a table in
the same style as the other lists :

Volume: Very low
Subscription address: users-subscribe [at] httpd
<mailto:announce-subscribe [at] httpd>
Unsubscription address: users-unsubscribe [at] httpd
<mailto:announce-unsubscribe [at] httpd>
Getting help with the list: users-help [at] httpd
<mailto:announce-help [at] httpd>
Archives: ASF archives
<http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/httpd-announce/>, mbox files
<http://httpd.apache.org/mail/announce/>, MARC archives
<http://marc.info/?l=apache-httpd-announce>

after the phrase "The lists and discussion groups listed here are the
*only* place that configuration and how-to questions belong, ever. Every
day, users become frustrated, not with Apache, but with how nobody will
help them understand how to get started. 95% of the time, it's not for
lack of helpers, but for lack of effort and well stated questions."

(with a link to German list that should contain a table in the same style

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