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paul at querna

Nov 25, 2009, 2:43 PM

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[VOTE] Release httpd 2.3.4-alpha

Test tarballs for Apache httpd 2.3.4-alpha are available at:
<http://httpd.apache.org/dev/dist/>

Your votes please;

+/- 1
[ ] Release httpd-2.3.4 as Alpha

Vote closes at 18:00 UTC on Monday November 30 2009.

May your Thanksgiving be filled with Turkey and httpd testing,

Thanks,

Paul

paul at querna

Nov 25, 2009, 4:09 PM

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Re: [VOTE] Release httpd 2.3.4-alpha [In reply to]

On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 2:43 PM, Paul Querna <paul [at] querna> wrote:
> Test tarballs for Apache httpd 2.3.4-alpha are available at:
> <http://httpd.apache.org/dev/dist/>
>
> Your votes please;
>
> +/- 1
> [ ] Release httpd-2.3.4 as Alpha
>
> Vote closes at 18:00 UTC on Monday November 30 2009.
>
> May your Thanksgiving be filled with Turkey and httpd testing,

Problems encountered when installing on aurora.apache.org (Solaris 10/SPARC):
- Had to modify configure scripts to use /bin/bash instead of /bin/sh (ideas?)
- Had to `ln -s apr_dbm_db.so apr_dbm_db-1.so`, otherwise all DBM
functions fail.

Otherwise it seems to be running fine as www.apache.org w/ the Event MPM.

sctemme at apache

Nov 29, 2009, 3:15 PM

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Re: [VOTE] Release httpd 2.3.4-alpha [In reply to]

On Nov 25, 2009, at 2:43 PM, Paul Querna wrote:

> +/- 1
> [ ] Release httpd-2.3.4 as Alpha

+1 Set it Free.

Builds cleanly on MacOSX 10.6.2, Ubuntu 9.10 and FreeBSD 6-STABLE.

Need a copy of PCRE on the former, the pcre port/package on the other two.

Runs with Event MPM as the default and does well with the perl-framework.

The only failing test on Linux and BSD is the one for mod_info (which now has the MPM in the output). On MacOSX there are some failing tests:

t/apache/byterange.t (Wstat: 0 Tests: 165 Failed: 165)
Failed tests: 1-165
t/modules/include.t (Wstat: 0 Tests: 88 Failed: 1)
Failed test: 53

These have to do with some freak behaviour where things like %ld are printed to the client. Only happens on this platform.

We should revisit STATUS to see what's really stopping us from throwing this over the wall.

Anyone have anything to add to http://httpd.apache.org/docs/trunk/new_features_2_4.html to tell our user community why this is interesting?

S.

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Nov 29, 2009, 9:37 PM

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Re: [VOTE] Release httpd 2.3.4-alpha [In reply to]

> [+1] Release httpd-2.3.4 as Alpha

Win32 Release build fails at mod_ldap
Windows XP
VC++ 6 SDK 2003 R2
PCRE 8.0
LUA 5.1.4

---Configuration: mod_ldap - Win32 Release--------------------
Compiling resources...
Compiling...
util_ldap.c
E:\build\httpd-2.3.x-dev\modules\ldap\util_ldap.c(2660) : error C2065:
'AP_LDAP_OPT_DEBUG' : undeclared identifier

Regards
Gregg

Paul Querna wrote:
> Test tarballs for Apache httpd 2.3.4-alpha are available at:
> <http://httpd.apache.org/dev/dist/>
>
> Your votes please;
>
> +/- 1
> [ ] Release httpd-2.3.4 as Alpha
>
> Vote closes at 18:00 UTC on Monday November 30 2009.
>
> May your Thanksgiving be filled with Turkey and httpd testing,
>
> Thanks,
>
> Paul
>

fuankg at apache

Nov 30, 2009, 5:52 AM

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Re: [VOTE] Release httpd 2.3.4-alpha [In reply to]

Gregg,
Gregg L. Smith schrieb:
> > [+1] Release httpd-2.3.4 as Alpha
>
> Win32 Release build fails at mod_ldap
> Windows XP
> VC++ 6 SDK 2003 R2
> PCRE 8.0
> LUA 5.1.4
>
>
> ---Configuration: mod_ldap - Win32 Release--------------------
> Compiling resources...
> Compiling...
> util_ldap.c
> E:\build\httpd-2.3.x-dev\modules\ldap\util_ldap.c(2660) : error C2065:
> 'AP_LDAP_OPT_DEBUG' : undeclared identifier
can you please test this fix I commited yesterday:
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revision&revision=885281

Gün.

lists at glewis

Nov 30, 2009, 8:55 AM

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Re: [VOTE] Release httpd 2.3.4-alpha [In reply to]

Guenter,

I looked at your commit

http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revision&revision=885281

Yes, it allows VC++ to continue on building without error. It is exactly
what I had done to get passed the problem. Thank you.

Regards,
Gregg

Guenter Knauf wrote:
> Gregg,
> Gregg L. Smith schrieb:
>> > [+1] Release httpd-2.3.4 as Alpha
>>
>> Win32 Release build fails at mod_ldap
>> Windows XP
>> VC++ 6 SDK 2003 R2
>> PCRE 8.0
>> LUA 5.1.4
>>
>>
>> ---Configuration: mod_ldap - Win32 Release--------------------
>> Compiling resources...
>> Compiling...
>> util_ldap.c
>> E:\build\httpd-2.3.x-dev\modules\ldap\util_ldap.c(2660) : error C2065:
>> 'AP_LDAP_OPT_DEBUG' : undeclared identifier
> can you please test this fix I commited yesterday:
> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revision&revision=885281
>
> Gün.
>
>
>
>

trawick at gmail

Nov 30, 2009, 9:32 AM

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Re: [VOTE] Release httpd 2.3.4-alpha [In reply to]

On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 5:43 PM, Paul Querna <paul [at] querna> wrote:
> Test tarballs for Apache httpd 2.3.4-alpha are available at:
> � <http://httpd.apache.org/dev/dist/>
>
> Your votes please;
>
> �+/- 1
> �[ �] �Release httpd-2.3.4 as Alpha
>
> Vote closes at 18:00 UTC on Monday November 30 2009.

I could use an extra couple of hours. Who else is still playing or
about to start?

rainer.jung at kippdata

Nov 30, 2009, 9:44 AM

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Re: [VOTE] Release httpd 2.3.4-alpha [In reply to]

I plan to have a look on Wednesday. I'll not be able earlier.

On 30.11.2009 18:32, Jeff Trawick wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 5:43 PM, Paul Querna <paul [at] querna> wrote:
>> Test tarballs for Apache httpd 2.3.4-alpha are available at:
>> <http://httpd.apache.org/dev/dist/>
>>
>> Your votes please;
>>
>> +/- 1
>> [ ] Release httpd-2.3.4 as Alpha
>>
>> Vote closes at 18:00 UTC on Monday November 30 2009.
>
> I could use an extra couple of hours. Who else is still playing or
> about to start?

sctemme at apache

Nov 30, 2009, 9:54 AM

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Re: [VOTE] Release httpd 2.3.4-alpha [In reply to]

On Nov 30, 2009, at 9:32 AM, Jeff Trawick wrote:

> On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 5:43 PM, Paul Querna <paul [at] querna> wrote:
>> Test tarballs for Apache httpd 2.3.4-alpha are available at:
>> <http://httpd.apache.org/dev/dist/>
>>
>> Your votes please;
>>
>> +/- 1
>> [ ] Release httpd-2.3.4 as Alpha
>>
>> Vote closes at 18:00 UTC on Monday November 30 2009.
>
> I could use an extra couple of hours. Who else is still playing or
> about to start?

I've had my look and my say, but yes if others are willing to spend some time I'd encourage Paul to extend the vote.

S.

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Sander Temme
sctemme [at] apache
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paul at querna

Nov 30, 2009, 10:13 AM

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Re: [VOTE] Release httpd 2.3.4-alpha [In reply to]

On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 9:32 AM, Jeff Trawick <trawick [at] gmail> wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 5:43 PM, Paul Querna <paul [at] querna> wrote:
>> Test tarballs for Apache httpd 2.3.4-alpha are available at:
>> <http://httpd.apache.org/dev/dist/>
>>
>> Your votes please;
>>
>> +/- 1
>> [ ] Release httpd-2.3.4 as Alpha
>>
>> Vote closes at 18:00 UTC on Monday November 30 2009.
>
> I could use an extra couple of hours. Who else is still playing or
> about to start?
>

Agree, very few people provided feedback, lets add 48 hours... so
closing at 18:00 UTC on Wednesday December 2nd.

trawick at gmail

Nov 30, 2009, 10:35 AM

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Re: [VOTE] Release httpd 2.3.4-alpha [In reply to]

On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 6:15 PM, Sander Temme <sctemme [at] apache> wrote:
>
> The only failing test on Linux and BSD is the one for mod_info (which now has the MPM in the output).

The mod_info test is confused by the inability to map from
mpm_FOO_module to mod_mpm_FOO.c. t/httpd -verbose gives

actual:
core.c event.c httpd_core.c ...
expect:
core.c http_core.c ... mod_mpm_event.c ...

info.t already has this for an existing module with the same general problem:

if ($1 eq 'util_ldap.c') {
push(@actual,'mod_ldap.c');
} else {
push(@actual, $1);
}

We could add more special casing to info.c, but I'd prefer to rename
source files so that the straightforward mapping works for all bundled
modules. I also like the "mpm_" decoration on these special modules.

trawick at gmail

Nov 30, 2009, 10:42 AM

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Re: [VOTE] Release httpd 2.3.4-alpha [In reply to]

On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 6:15 PM, Sander Temme <sctemme [at] apache> wrote:
>
> The only failing test on Linux and BSD is the one for mod_info (which now has the MPM in the output).

The same info.t test is also the only failure on OpenSolaris 2009.06.

trawick at gmail

Nov 30, 2009, 12:03 PM

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Re: [VOTE] Release httpd 2.3.4-alpha [In reply to]

On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 5:43 PM, Paul Querna <paul [at] querna> wrote:
> Test tarballs for Apache httpd 2.3.4-alpha are available at:
> � <http://httpd.apache.org/dev/dist/>
>
> Your votes please;
>

[+1] �Release httpd-2.3.4 as Alpha

tested with -deps tarball on OpenSolaris 2009.06 and OS X Leopard

OpenSolaris 2009.06:

event MPM used by default
only info.t testcase fails

OS X Leopard

worker MPM used by default
patch to Apache-Test/lib/Apache/TestConfig.pm needed to avoid Lockfile directive
a number of test failures, but comparing with 2.2.x HEAD the only
extra failure is the info.t failure discussed previously

I should dig into the failures in case some setup problem is hiding a
trunk problem. I'll do something about the TestConfig.pm issue.

mamfelt at gmail

Nov 30, 2009, 12:09 PM

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Re: [VOTE] Release httpd 2.3.4-alpha [In reply to]

Trying to build on AIX with same setup as for 2.2.14.

After unpacking both tar files
using:
./configure --prefix=/usr/local/apache2 \
--enable-layout=Apache \
--enable-module=so \
--enable-mods-shared=most \
--with-z=/data/prj/zlib-1.2.3

end result is:

configure: error: pcre-config for libpcre not found. PCRE is required and
available from http://pcre.org/

These are directories that did get a Makefile.

michael [at] x05:[/data/prj/alpha/httpd-2.3.4-alpha]find . -name Makefile
./srclib/apr/test/internal/Makefile
./srclib/apr/test/Makefile
./srclib/apr/Makefile
./srclib/apr-util/test/Makefile
./srclib/apr-util/Makefile
michael [at] x05:[/data/prj/alpha/httpd-2.3.4-alpha]

covener at gmail

Nov 30, 2009, 12:10 PM

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Re: [VOTE] Release httpd 2.3.4-alpha [In reply to]

On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 3:09 PM, Michael Felt <mamfelt [at] gmail> wrote:
>
>
> Trying to build on AIX with same setup as for 2.2.14.
>
>
>
> After unpacking both tar files
> using:
> ./configure --prefix=/usr/local/apache2 \
> --enable-layout=Apache \
> --enable-module=so \
> --enable-mods-shared=most \
> --with-z=/data/prj/zlib-1.2.3
>
> end result is:
>
> configure: error: pcre-config for libpcre not found. PCRE is required and
> available from http://pcre.org/

pcre is no longer bundled in trunk.

--
Eric Covener
covener [at] gmail

paul at querna

Nov 30, 2009, 12:11 PM

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Re: [VOTE] Release httpd 2.3.4-alpha [In reply to]

On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 12:09 PM, Michael Felt <mamfelt [at] gmail> wrote:
>
>
> Trying to build on AIX with same setup as for 2.2.14.
>
>
>
> After unpacking both tar files
> using:
> ./configure --prefix=/usr/local/apache2 \
> --enable-layout=Apache \
> --enable-module=so \
> --enable-mods-shared=most \
> --with-z=/data/prj/zlib-1.2.3
>
> end result is:
>
> configure: error: pcre-config for libpcre not found. PCRE is required and
> available from http://pcre.org/
>
> These are directories that did get a Makefile.
>
> michael [at] x05:[/data/prj/alpha/httpd-2.3.4-alpha]find . -name Makefile
> ./srclib/apr/test/internal/Makefile
> ./srclib/apr/test/Makefile
> ./srclib/apr/Makefile
> ./srclib/apr-util/test/Makefile
> ./srclib/apr-util/Makefile
> michael [at] x05:[/data/prj/alpha/httpd-2.3.4-alpha]

Yes, 2.3+ will not bundle libpcre.

Grab a copy from www.pcre.org, install it, and add
--with-pcre=/your/pcre/prefix to your config flags, and hopefully it
should all work.

mamfelt at gmail

Nov 30, 2009, 12:19 PM

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Re: [VOTE] Release httpd 2.3.4-alpha [In reply to]

update: what you probably already knew: httpd-2.2.14 included a srclib
directory with pcre. That is missing in the alpha tarball.

michael [at] x05:[/data/prj/alpha/httpd-2.3.4-alpha]find . | grep pcre
./server/util_pcre.c

How you deal with it is your concern, but anyone with AIX will have to
create an adjusted system to build the sources.

sctemme at apache

Nov 30, 2009, 12:32 PM

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Re: [VOTE] Release httpd 2.3.4-alpha [In reply to]

On Nov 30, 2009, at 12:19 PM, Michael Felt wrote:

>
>
> update: what you probably already knew: httpd-2.2.14 included a srclib directory with pcre. That is missing in the alpha tarball.
>
> michael [at] x05:[/data/prj/alpha/httpd-2.3.4-alpha]find . | grep pcre
> ./server/util_pcre.c
>
> How you deal with it is your concern, but anyone with AIX will have to create an adjusted system to build the sources.

Yes, as Paul said this is deliberate: PCRE is no longer bundled.

It now has the same status as Zlib, which I see from your original post you also pull in from a non-OS location.

Whether we should include appropriate versions of libraries like libz and pcre in our Deps tarball is another discussion...

S.

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Nov 30, 2009, 12:34 PM

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Re: [VOTE] Release httpd 2.3.4-alpha [In reply to]

one more little bit. It seems pcre 8.0 requires c++ to compile. (too bad
configure does not complain when it does't find it). I am going to have to
look for a new compiler to build pcre. So testing is stopped indefinitely.

Having what is needed, as httpd has done previously, and as php does, will
simplify things imho.

On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 9:19 PM, Michael Felt <mamfelt [at] gmail> wrote:

>
>
> update: what you probably already knew: httpd-2.2.14 included a srclib
> directory with pcre. That is missing in the alpha tarball.
>
> michael [at] x05:[/data/prj/alpha/httpd-2.3.4-alpha]find . | grep pcre
> ./server/util_pcre.c
>
> How you deal with it is your concern, but anyone with AIX will have to
> create an adjusted system to build the sources.
>

wrowe at rowe-clan

Nov 30, 2009, 1:12 PM

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Re: [VOTE] Release httpd 2.3.4-alpha [In reply to]

Paul Querna wrote:
> Test tarballs for Apache httpd 2.3.4-alpha are available at:
> <http://httpd.apache.org/dev/dist/>
>
> Your votes please;
>
> +/- 1
> [-1] Release httpd-2.3.4 as Alpha

for shipping the package httpd-2.3.4-deps; 1.4.0-dev is not released
and I strongly feel the httpd project isn't in the business of doing
so.

Look, PCRE is a mandatory component. APR is a mandatory component.
Let's please start applying some rhyme to our reasoning again.

trawick at gmail

Nov 30, 2009, 3:11 PM

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Re: [VOTE] Release httpd 2.3.4-alpha [In reply to]

On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 7:09 PM, Paul Querna <paul [at] querna> wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 2:43 PM, Paul Querna <paul [at] querna> wrote:
>> Test tarballs for Apache httpd 2.3.4-alpha are available at:
>> � <http://httpd.apache.org/dev/dist/>
>>
>> Your votes please;
>>
>> �+/- 1
>> �[ �] �Release httpd-2.3.4 as Alpha
>>
>> Vote closes at 18:00 UTC on Monday November 30 2009.
>>
>> May your Thanksgiving be filled with Turkey and httpd testing,
>
> Problems encountered when installing on aurora.apache.org (Solaris 10/SPARC):
> �- Had to modify configure scripts to use /bin/bash instead of /bin/sh (ideas?)
> �- Had to `ln -s apr_dbm_db.so apr_dbm_db-1.so`, otherwise all DBM
> functions fail.

Solaris 10 U5 x86:

no issues using just the httpd-2.3.4 tarball, building against
apr/apr-util 1.4.x HEAD
no httpd test failures with event MPM other than the info.t issue

I had some configure issues using the -deps tarball, but I haven't investigated.

sctemme at apache

Nov 30, 2009, 3:43 PM

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Re: [VOTE] Release httpd 2.3.4-alpha [In reply to]

On Nov 30, 2009, at 1:12 PM, "William A. Rowe Jr." <wrowe [at] rowe
clan.net> wrote:

> Paul Querna wrote:
>> Test tarballs for Apache httpd 2.3.4-alpha are available at:
>> <http://httpd.apache.org/dev/dist/>
>>
>> Your votes please;
>>
>> +/- 1
>> [-1] Release httpd-2.3.4 as Alpha
>
> for shipping the package httpd-2.3.4-deps; 1.4.0-dev is not released
> and I strongly feel the httpd project isn't in the business of doing
> so.

How big an overlap do we still have, community wise, with APR?
Obviously we should discuss that on the dev [at] ap list.

> Look, PCRE is a mandatory component. APR is a mandatory component.
> Let's please start applying some rhyme to our reasoning again.

Meaning? Put pcre in -deps? With libz? That's mandatory for deflate.

S.

wrowe at rowe-clan

Nov 30, 2009, 4:48 PM

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Re: [VOTE] Release httpd 2.3.4-alpha [In reply to]

Paul Querna wrote:
> Test tarballs for Apache httpd 2.3.4-alpha are available at:
> <http://httpd.apache.org/dev/dist/>
>
> Your votes please;
>
> +/- 1
> [ ] Release httpd-2.3.4 as Alpha

+1 for httpd-2.3.4-alpha.tar.gz

-1 for httpd-2.3.4-alpha-deps.tar.gz ...

and since httpd-2.3.4-alpha-deps is not the same (and is in fact an
entirely separate package of unreleased software), is not necessarily
tested as part of registering this vote you called above, I must insist
you hold a separate vote on that package to call it a release, or in any
way park it on httpd://www.a.o/dist/. I personally might vote against,
but it's the [explicit] decision of the httpd PMC folks to decide if this
does or doesn't happen.

And thanks for your hard work on this, especially to the whole crew who
is helping out and keeping it caught up. I don't mind that 2.3.4 would
ship without support for this-or-that platform, that's the point of alpha,
to get something into somebody's hands. I'm regaining my vision fairly
quickly, and just as quickly discovered a couple things were out of whack
on my win32 build system. But after some quick provisioning, it looks
like a vc6 build works like a champ out of trunk, I will commit the add
of mod_proxy_scgi proposed by Gregg, and recheck it all with VC9.

Looking like progress :)

wrowe at rowe-clan

Nov 30, 2009, 4:54 PM

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Re: [VOTE] Release httpd 2.3.4-alpha [In reply to]

Sander Temme wrote:
> On Nov 30, 2009, at 1:12 PM, "William A. Rowe Jr." <wrowe [at] rowe-clan>
>
>> Look, PCRE is a mandatory component. APR is a mandatory component.
>> Let's please start applying some rhyme to our reasoning again.
>
> Meaning? Put pcre in -deps? With libz? That's mandatory for deflate.

Mandatory 'for a feature' is not the same thing as mandatory to build
the damned thing ... zlib is no more 'required' than libiconv; you'll
lose a couple features but you'll keep on plugging away.

PCRE is a critical, don't pass go, don't collect $200 feature. And what
is passing for an excuse for a local PCRE install these days probably
doesn't look like 7.8 or later, with various fixes we are vulnerable to.

So until we support building sans-pcre, it would seem like a good idea
to bundle it with whatever 'extras' we ship.

paul at querna

Nov 30, 2009, 10:48 PM

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Re: [VOTE] Release httpd 2.3.4-alpha [In reply to]

On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 4:48 PM, William A. Rowe Jr.
<wrowe [at] rowe-clan> wrote:
> Paul Querna wrote:
>> Test tarballs for Apache httpd 2.3.4-alpha are available at:
>> <http://httpd.apache.org/dev/dist/>
>>
>> Your votes please;
>>
>> +/- 1
>> [ ] Release httpd-2.3.4 as Alpha
>
> +1 for httpd-2.3.4-alpha.tar.gz
>
> -1 for httpd-2.3.4-alpha-deps.tar.gz ...
>
> and since httpd-2.3.4-alpha-deps is not the same (and is in fact an
> entirely separate package of unreleased software), is not necessarily
> tested as part of registering this vote you called above, I must insist
> you hold a separate vote on that package to call it a release, or in any
> way park it on httpd://www.a.o/dist/. I personally might vote against,
> but it's the [explicit] decision of the httpd PMC folks to decide if this
> does or doesn't happen.

I am trying to parse what you mean by this vote Bill.

The vote is on all of the source release, including the -deps
tarballs. For the terms of the vote, I will interpret this as a -1 on
the entire release.

I agree, the root of the problem is the APR project, and they should
do a release when they see fit.

I don't agree that we can't release a bundled unreleased version of
APR, we did this for many versions of httpd 2.0.x and 2.1.x. It
definitely isn't preferred, but that's the APR project's problem.

Thanks,

Paul

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