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Jul 11, 2002, 11:44 AM

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View sites before DNS updates, on Plesk?

Just wondering. I've had a look around, but can't see anything about this. Is there a way to use your IP address to preview the sites folders etc before the domain name has resolved to the server? For example, on my old server I could use; http://207.230.62.131/~ace-installer.com, but on this system I don't seem to be able to.

I could just wait til its resolved....but I'm quite an impatient person (as some of you may already know...lol).

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Jul 11, 2002, 11:45 AM

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Jul 11, 2002, 11:45 AM

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Did you not go for managed hosting?...sigh.

Jul 12, 2002, 1:38 AM

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Jul 12, 2002, 1:38 AM

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Well, semi managed. The will install stuff for me, but the addition of domains/databases etc are avaiailble for me to do, as well as other stuff like restarting the machine etc. Plesk makes it very easy for that kinda stuff Tongue

Andy (mod)
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Jul 12, 2002, 2:44 AM

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Jul 12, 2002, 2:44 AM

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It looks like all the pre-installed stuff is outta date...you might want to hire me to upgrade it all Smile

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Jul 12, 2002, 2:51 AM

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Jul 12, 2002, 2:51 AM

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In answer to your question though it is related to apache. Read:

http://httpd.apache.org/...mod/mod_userdir.html

It may be different with plesk installed though.

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Jul 12, 2002, 3:00 AM

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Jul 12, 2002, 3:00 AM

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Well, I didn't actually pay $500. I got it for $199. The setup was done instantaniously...so I'm assuming they build the systems, install it, and then leave them til someone buys it...maybe they even have a program that does it all for them, to save them even more time (could be why some of the stuff is outdated) Tongue

Andy (mod)
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Jul 12, 2002, 3:10 AM

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Jul 12, 2002, 3:10 AM

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Well, if it's an out-of-the-box installation of a Linux distribution, then it's always going to be out-dated. All linux distributions are outdated. They package them up with stable releses of software which isn't usualy the latest release. I wouldn't be too bothered about it if I was you.

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Jul 12, 2002, 3:17 AM

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Jul 12, 2002, 3:17 AM

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LOL...I'm not. Its only PHP I'm worried about, as there was quite a large bug in one of the oldver v4 releases in which file uploads could be exploited. I may talk to the support team later, and get them to upgrade it Wink

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Jul 12, 2002, 3:19 AM

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Jul 12, 2002, 3:19 AM

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We are talking about RedHat 7.2 Wil, it hasn't been around that long...certainly way way after Apache 1.3.12

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I wouldn't be too bothered about it if I was you.
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Well I would seeing as RedHat 7.2 normally comes with Apache 1.3.20

Jul 12, 2002, 3:36 AM

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Jul 12, 2002, 3:36 AM

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I'm gonna email them now and ask them whats going on. They should upgrade it without any hassle, but if not, then its no real problem, as I have RedHat 7.2, which is the main one for security holes etc Tongue

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Jul 12, 2002, 3:40 AM

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Jul 12, 2002, 3:40 AM

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>>as I have RedHat 7.2, which is the main one for security holes etc <<

Why not ask them to install 7.3 then while you are at it ;)

Jul 12, 2002, 4:09 AM

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Jul 12, 2002, 4:09 AM

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What's wrong with Apache 1.3.20?

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Jul 12, 2002, 4:11 AM

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Jul 12, 2002, 4:11 AM

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Consider your hosting provider is running Apache 1.3.19, Paul, I wouldn't be too concerned about Andy's situation. ;-)

- wil

Jul 12, 2002, 4:15 AM

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Jul 12, 2002, 4:15 AM

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What's wrong with Apache 1.3.20?
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I don't believe I said anything was wrong with 1.3.20 did I?

Jul 12, 2002, 4:16 AM

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Jul 12, 2002, 4:16 AM

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Consider your hosting provider is running Apache 1.3.19, Paul, I wouldn't be too concerned about Andy's situation. ;-)
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I run the server and have more important things to do currently than upgrade apache....however I haven't just purchased a new server and been given 1.3.12...there quite a big difference ;)

I'm really not that bothered believe me, I'm just saying I'd be a little peeved if I was Andy...

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Jul 12, 2002, 5:00 AM

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Jul 12, 2002, 5:00 AM

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Oh! I didn't realize that Andy's server had 1.3.12 pre-loaded. Sorry, my bad.

That's bad news, Andy. Check out the following URL for further information:

http://httpd.apache.org/...ulletin_20020620.txt

- wil

Jul 12, 2002, 8:11 AM

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Jul 12, 2002, 8:11 AM

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Mmm...accoring to them;'

>>>Apache 1.3.12 comes installed with Red Hat 7.2. This is the correct installation. <<<

I'm gonna go to RedHats site, and verify this for myself ;)

Andy (mod)
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Jul 12, 2002, 8:34 AM

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Jul 12, 2002, 8:34 AM

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I just installed RedHat 7.2 on a box here in the office last week and I can tell you that it installed Apache version 1.3.20 as default.

Cheers

- wil

Jul 12, 2002, 8:38 AM

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Jul 12, 2002, 8:38 AM

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Mmm...ok, I'll have a word with them. I'm not really too fussed...but I suppose its better safe than sorry Tongue

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Jul 12, 2002, 8:39 AM

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Jul 12, 2002, 8:39 AM

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Just make sure it's patched regarding the recent exploit, that's all.

- wil

Jul 12, 2002, 8:43 AM

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Jul 12, 2002, 8:43 AM

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Apache's recent exploit? What was that? Or are you refering to PHP's?

Cheers

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Jul 12, 2002, 8:43 AM

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Jul 12, 2002, 8:43 AM

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OK. Remember this chat we had about avtually clicking on the URLs I post in reply to your messages? :-)

http://httpd.apache.org/...ulletin_20020620.txt

- wil

Jul 12, 2002, 8:47 AM

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Jul 12, 2002, 8:47 AM

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LOL...I'm sending them that link now... Wink

Andy (mod)
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Jul 13, 2002, 1:37 AM